Ripper 30 wrote:But it already contradicts how Toriyama mentioned that a Kaio can't become a Kaioshin and Kaioshin are separately born. It doesn't really make much sense in DBS, with how they established that after going through training a Kaio can become a Kaioshin. So the life of Kaioshin switches from person to person which is connected to Hakaishin? That's contrived logic, it's only created to make it easy for Zamasu to kill All Gods without much thought put into it.
As for Potara thing, defusing inside Boohan happened for many implicit reasons:
1) Kaioshin and Kibito not being able to revive Boo with their ki like how Babidi implied that Kaioshin magic doesn't blend with Majin Magic.
2) Boo being weakened by absorbing the Kaioshin. Clear indicators that a Potara fusion of Kaioshin wouldn't be compatible with Majin Magic. On top of all that, DBS retcon completely diminishes the stakes of Goku and Vegeta potentially fusing forever despite Vegeta thinking of him as a rival which is what made that scene so good in Original manga.
If you pay attention to how Goku and Vegeta defused in Boo arc, it happened the instant they removed the barrier inside Boo's stomach when they were Super Vegetto which proves my point of how the Show implied that Majin magic and Kaioshin magic don't blend together.
It should be noted that Toriyama gave an interview in 2009 which directly conflicts with 2014 interview he gave that Kaioshin being born separately.
Dragon Ball Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume
Q. Is Kaiō-sama a hereditary position?
Toriyama: Inside the big ball I mentioned before, there is a planet, called the World Core [Kaishin-sei] where the Kaiō are born and raised. It’s a world like a gigantic Planet Kaiō, and Kaiō-sama and his peers are born as Core People [Shin-jin] from the fruit of the World Core’s giant World Tree [Kaiju]. The planet’s population is about 80. Core People are neither male nor female, and their average lifespan is said to be about 75,000 years. At a castle that’s like a school, they learn a variety of things, and live an easygoing life; however, if a Kaiō dies on one of the Kaiō Planets, the next Kaiō is chosen from among them by lottery. However, a Kaiōshin is chosen only from Core People who are born from a special golden fruit, which rarely occurs. In addition, there are occasionally delinquent Core People with evil hearts; these ones fall under the Makaiō.
Kaio and Kaioshin are from the same race (Core People/Shin-jin) and are born on the same planet (World Core/Kaishin-sei) and even from the same tree (World Tree/Kaiju).
There's nothing really contrived about how Kaioshin and Haikshin are linked by their life. Those who are become officially promoted to a Kaioshin are the automatically life linked with the corresponding Hakaishin of their universe.
As for the reason you gave for why Vegetto defused inside of Super Boo:
- Ki and magic are two completely different aspects. And it's never specified in the story, or even in the guidebooks to my knowledge, that certain races or specific people have unique kinds of magic. Like, the magic that Kaioshin and Kibito use is no different from the magic that Namekians, Spike the Devil Man, Fortuneteller Baba or Dabra uses. It's just magic in general. And Majin Boo being revived was dependant on having enough Ki to donate to his cocoon. Which wasn't the case with Kaioshin and Kibito. Hence why Spopovich and Yamu went after SSJ2 Gohan and not Kibito or Kaioshin at the Tenkaichi Budokai.
- Majin Boo actually become stronger after absorbing Southern Kaioshin (who was the strongest Kaioshin), as Goku noted that Majin Boo Ki grew bigger when Majin Boo was bulking up after removing Fat Boo inside of him and Elder Kaioshin noted that the bulked up form that Majin Boo turned into was the appearance he gained after absorbing Southern Kaioshin. It was only after Majin Boo absorbed Dai Kaioshin that Majin Boo was
tamed (not weakened). It had nothing to do with the magic Kaiohin's possessed.
Vegetto defusing happened in the story because Toriyama needed it to happen. Hence why no legitimate reason is ever given in-universe for why Vegetto defused inside of Super Boo. Hell, Vegeta and Goku later crushed to Potara earrings, Vegeta directly refused to perform the Fusion Dance and Goku declined using the Potara to fight Kid Boo as Toriyama wanted to kill off any avenue to Goku and Vegeta fusing again because, from Toriyama's point of view, fusion was a plot device that had outlived its usefulness and convenience to the how he wanted to tell the story.
SaiyanGod117 wrote:But it was heavily hinted at, and was the most evident conclusion also lets not kidd ourselves the time limit wasn't a thing until Super.
I'm not saying the time limit for mortal using the Potara wasn't a thing until Super. I'm just saying the story never provided a concrete explanation for why Vegetto defused inside Super Boo. It's just brief guesswork from Goku that's never substantiated.
