Kefla wins both rounds. Base Kefla is SSG tier and I think current Golden Frieza could probably edge out over ssj Kefla, but not RoF Frieza, he would gas out too quick.AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
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Even present Zamasu was competetive with SS2 Goku and SS1 goku was more than enough to break his "passive ki shield"Helios518 wrote:I'm pretty sure that's why 5milo specified "no time limit" but even then Zamasu isn't even near strong enough to break through Geran's passive meditation shield.apex_pretador wrote: Zamasu eventually. Jiren needs a lot of time to conserve his stamina
Hit stops his heart and throws him in dimension of time after Goku and Vegeta destroy his time ring.Noah wrote:New match:
- Merged Zamasu (full power) vs. current SSJB Goku (can use Kaioken), SSJB Vegeta, Hit (assassin techniques allowed), Dyspo and Toppo
Kefla stompsAvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
Freeza dies because he can't maintain his power.
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Merged Zamasu gets stomped by Goku only. And I would like to know why he never used KK against him in the first place.Noah wrote:New match:
- Merged Zamasu (full power) vs. current SSJB Goku (can use Kaioken), SSJB Vegeta, Hit (assassin techniques allowed), Dyspo and Toppo
- Probably Kefla.AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
- Whoops, I thought it was current Golden Freeza. In this case, Kefla wins.
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AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
Kefla stomps. Putting someone around base Goku level against someone who was smacking around SSG Goku is not a fair match in the slightest.
Again Kefla stomps. Current Goku, who is stronger than current Freeza and waaay stronger that ROF Freeza had to use kaioken just to keep up with her, and still got beaten. Not to mention Freeza will be leaking power like crazy.
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Goku was tired when fighter her though. I think a full power SSB Goku and true Golden Frieza would at least be on par with ssj Kefla. However you are right, RoF Frieza would run out of gas, though before that he should put up a good fight.Shlugo wrote:AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
Kefla stomps. Putting someone around base Goku level against someone who was smacking around SSG Goku is not a fair match in the slightest.
Again Kefla stomps. Current Goku, who is stronger than current Freeza and waaay stronger that ROF Freeza had to use kaioken just to keep up with her, and still got beaten. Not to mention Freeza will be leaking power like crazy.
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1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
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1. Kafla likely gets too cocky and ends up giving Black a power boost then Black proceeds to eviscerate her. Black 8/10Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
2. Golden Freeza could know the Time-Skip but he may not know how to counter it. Also even if he could counter it, then he would just die to Hit's killing move the same way Goku did because he didn't know about the attack. Hit 9.5/10
3. Toppo & Dyspo body Goku & Vegeta. I'm pretty sure that current SSJB is stronger than even SSJBKKx10 in that arc and Toppo & Dyspo meaning are more than capable of handling those two. Toppo & Dyspo 10/10
4. The best chance that the team has, is if Hit time cages Geran and the others do a combined ki attack at him. But seeing as how Geran's gaze pushed back a Genki-Dama that a SSJBKKx20 was pushing against and the team's combined power doesn't even make half of SSJBKKx20's power, Geran still easily wins this. Geran 10/10.
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1. Tough one. Base Kefla would stand no chance, but Super Saiyan could give him a run for his money. I'll still give it to Black, it's safe to say he's stronger than a tired Goku.Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
2. If killing's allowed, then Hit's got him. There's a limit to how much knowing about Time Skip can protect you, and Hit was eventually able to surpass Kaioken Blue with it.
3. Only Toppo is Blue level, but if he's on par with current Goku, he should be able to beat both of them without much hassle.
4. If Hit could get Jiren in the time cage again, and the others were somehow able to keep him from getting out, then maybe they could win. But none of these characters are inclined toward teamwork, so Jiren would tear through them.
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1. Kefla wins easily assuming she goes Super SaiyanBerserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
2. Hit stops his heart, temporarily, then spams time-skip till Freeza is dead
3. Goku and vegeta. Toppo might be their level but Dyspo isn't. His fight against Hit was an outlier for him.
4. Still Jiren. Neither of them matters, except maybe hit, unless Freeza is hiding something.
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SSJ Cabba vs 4th Form Frieza (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan
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- Kefla was even with a tired SsjB Goku. So, unless he got so strong since the last arc that his tired form's above Goku Black, the latter wins.Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
- I don't know why, but Hit fought "differently" in the tournament. Remember him against Goku during that mini arc? He was much better. Anyway, Hit wins because he was stated to be the third strongest warrior on the ring by Jiren himself.
- Toppo solos.
- The strongest amongst them (Hit) got stomped by Jiren, who broke his cage of time with ease. That's it I guess.
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- Freeza wins. And honestly, I don't know why he used Golden to beat him. It was meaningless (as he said).AvatarReiko wrote:SSJ Cabba vs 4th Form Frieza (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan
- 17 wins.
- Anime Future Zamasu should win, as he was a match for both SsjB's and Ssj Ikari. Ssj2 Caulifla isn't in the slightest.
- Future Zamasu is immortal and SsjB tier. So, he annihilates Buuhan.
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I feel like they would be around base Kafla level.Noah wrote:- Strongest character 'Android #35' could beat?
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Goku Black vs SSJ Vegito(Buu Arc)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)
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Even if you want to low ball FTArc base Goku to equal Boo Arc Vegetto, that would still mean that Base Black is at the very least as strong as Boo Arc SSJ2 Vegetto. Black wins 10/10AvatarReiko wrote:Goku Black vs SSJ Vegito(Buu Arc)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)
SSJR Black eviscerates SSJBerserk Kafla let alone Base Kafla.
Hmm, I give it to SSJ4 Goku 7/10.
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How would the following rank in terms of strength?
1. Beerus
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Fusion Zamasu
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 110)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 116)
6. Jiren
7. (Berserker) Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
1. Beerus
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Fusion Zamasu
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 110)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 116)
6. Jiren
7. (Berserker) Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
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1. Beerus (unseen 100% full power)SuperDragoon wrote:How would the following rank in terms of strength?
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Jiren
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Kefla)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Jiren)
6. Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
7. Merged Zamasu
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I'd put Merged Zamasu above KeflaNoah wrote:1. Beerus (unseen 100% full power)SuperDragoon wrote:How would the following rank in terms of strength?
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Jiren
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Kefla)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Jiren)
6. Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
7. Merged Zamasu
Rose Black bodies Kefla, so Merged Zamasu wouldnt even be a fair fight
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Rosé Black bodies SSJ Kefla, but not SSJ2 Kefla that has techniques that could even hurt UI Goku and it's probably stronger than KKx20 + SSJB.Dbzfan94 wrote:I'd put Merged Zamasu above Kefla, Rose Black bodies Kefla, so Merged Zamasu wouldnt even be a fair fight