The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:17 pm

ricky84 wrote:Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
- If we go by Z logic (Base Vegito > Buutenks), than Vegito stomps. If we go by Super logic (Vegito needs SsjB to fight evenly with Merged Zamasu), Freeza wins.
- Goku.
- Hit curbstomps. Jiren couldn't even handle Goku and Freeza who were just as fatigued as him.
- Pass.
- Pass.
- Pass.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:51 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:
ricky84 wrote:Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
- If we go by Z logic (Base Vegito > Buutenks), than Vegito stomps. If we go by Super logic (Vegito needs SsjB to fight evenly with Merged Zamasu), Freeza wins.
- Goku.
- Hit curbstomps. Jiren couldn't even handle Goku and Freeza who were just as fatigued as him.
- Pass.
- Pass.
- Pass.
There is no different logic between Z & Super with Vegito. Goku Black in his prime was much stronger than both SSB Goku and Vegeta added togther, and Future Zamasu was undeniably SSB level in the anime. Considering the fact that Both Vegito and Merged Zamasu are potara fusions (and thus should have the same boost), if anything Merged Zamasu should of had the edge in raw power in the anime version.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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ricky84 wrote:Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
Freeza
Goku
Hit one shots
Vegetto one shots
Gohan one shots
Goku one shots

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:00 pm

CTAkuma wrote:1:Turles with a 10 fruit buffet vs. Namek Saga Final Form Frieza
2:Saiyan Saga Vegeta with 1 week of prep time and knowledge of body change vs. Ginyu Namek Saga
3:Yamcha Saiyan saga vs Raditz
1. Frieza
2. Giyu, Vegeta can't really do anything with prep.
3. Could go either way, but I think Ymacha due to martial arts skill and techniques.
RecolorSaiyan wrote:1. ssj kefla vs hit( you can do manga and anime)
2. episode 123 jiren vs ssj2 kefla (obvs anime)
3. base toppo vs ss rose black (Anime)
1. Anime Kefla wins, manga Kefla depends on if she and Gohan are really above MSSB Goku or not.
2. Jiren
3. Black
ZombieVito wrote: New fights:
Gohan [Ultimate] vs 17 [No infinite stamina]. Both ToP arc.
Gamisaras vs Kahseral. Gamisaras is visible.
Aniraza vs Merged Zamasu [No Halo and no immortality].
Saonel and Pirina vs Golden Freeza [RoF arc].
Ginyu Tagoma vs Super Saiyan Goku [Cell Games arc].
Botamo [No damage negation] vs Perfect Cell.
-Can go either way. I would give the edge to 17. Manga Gohan would win though.
-Kahseral
-Zamasu
-Frieza
-Goku
-Perfect Cell
Dragon Ball Gus wrote:New Hypothetical Question
Raditto (Goku (Saiyan Saga) and Raditz potara fusion) has returned. And this time, he can go Super Saiyan! How strong would he be as an SSJ?
If it's pre king kai training Goku, then they lose to 50% Frieza. If it's post king kai training Goku, they beat Frieza but lose to the androids.
ricky84 wrote:Anime only:

SSJ2 Cabba (ToP) vs SSJ2 Future Trunks (end of Black arc)
Metal Cooler (5th form) vs Perfect Cell
SSJ2 Caulifla (ToP) vs SSJ2 Gohan (ToP)
SSJ1 Goku (Baby arc) vs Buuhan
Vegito (Saiyan arc) vs 100% Freeza (Namek arc)
SSJ2 Vegeta (ToP) vs SSJ2 Caulifla & SSJ1 Kale
Base Gotenks (Buu arc post-Rosat) vs Piccolo (BoG)
SSJ2 Vegeta (Shadow Dragon arc) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs SSG Goku (Black arc)
-Trunks
-pass
-Gohan
-pass
-Their base form would lose, but they would stomp with ssj.
-Vegeta in a tough fight
-Gotenks
-pass
-SSG Goku
ricky84 wrote:Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
-Frieza
-Gotenks
-If it's beginning of 131, then Jiren since he almost beat Frieza and 17 at the same time.
-base Vegito stomps
-if it's a multiplier boost than Goku, if it just enhances his technique then Vegito.
-ultimate Gohan
-SSG Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:50 pm

ricky84 wrote:Base Vegito (ToP) vs True Golden Freeza
Base Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)
Fatigued Jiren (ep.131) vs Hit (ToP)
UI Omen Goku (Namek arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc)
SSBE Vegeta (Saiyan arc) vs Ultimate Gohan (Buu arc)
SSJ Rage Trunks (Cell Games) vs SSG Goku (BoG)
1. Vegetto stomps. Fusion is supposed to be far above anything the fusers can pull off, and Golden Freeza is roughly on pair with SSJB Goku.
2. Base Gotenks finger clicks. He's far above the SSJ Kids, who are as strong as Gohan, who's stronger than SSJ Goku. It's arguable that he could even take on SSJ2s, given how everyone reacted to his power.
3. Pass...
4. Probably Vegetto. I've yet to see a reason for why UI would be so powerful.
5. Gohan one shots.
6. Goku one shots.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:01 pm

New match:

Android #17 (Super) vs. Super Boo-han
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:03 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

Android #17 (Super) vs. Super Boo-han
17 one shots
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by CTAkuma » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:22 pm

Ultimate Gohan(DBZ) with 1 week of prep time and knowledge of Janemba's abilities/moves vs Super Janemba
Piccolo(Kami fused) vs Semi-Perfect Cell(In character, quite cocky and arrogant)
Lord Slug(With prep time if too stompish) vs Final Form Frieza(Namek saga)

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Post by MainJPW » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:32 pm

Ssjcell wrote:18 year old roshi vs 18 year old crane hermit
18 year old tao vs 18 year old Grandpa Gohan
Kid Piccolo (popo saga) vs Tien 22 world martial arts tournament
Kuririn 23rd martial arts vs yamcha 23rd martial arts
Chi chi 23rd martial arts tournament vs Goku 21st martial arts tournament
Who knows. I don’t recall any feats for either of them.

Who knows. We’ve never even seen their young selves so this is pointless.

Let’s see: Kid Piccolo couldn’t kill a domestic dog with a blast and sunk a small boat. Tenshinhan, on the other hand, created a deep crater in the Earth with Kikoho and actually has speed and striking feats worth noting. Tenshinhan has far superior feats and Kid Piccolo barely has any plus they’re weak as shit. Tenshinhan stomps.

Kuririn gave Piccolo a hard time whilst Yamcha was getting stomped by a weaker, not trying Kami. Kuririn stomps.

Goku. Better physicals, better speed feats.
Ssjcell wrote:Boz piccolo fused with kami vs nappa
Considering the massive boost they got when they fused Piccolo oneshots.
CTAkuma wrote:1:Raditz vs a Saibaman
2:Annin vs Piccolo Daimao
3:Cell vs Dabura
4:Jiren(Heavily supressed) vs Infinite Zamasu
5:Goku Black vs Caulifla
6:Super Buu(Janemba absorbed) vs Beerus (Heavily supressed, no Hakai)
7:Appule vs Cui
8: 10 Metal Coolers vs 5 Cell Jrs
9:Giran vs General Blue
10:Android 21 vs Hit
1: Raditz wins with actual skill.
2: Annin. She kept up with 23rd Budokai Goku... or at least Goku was visibly trying especially after she grew, he even used the Bansho Fan on her.
3: Cell.
4: How the heck is Jiren supposed to beat him? Even if he’s at full power I don’t see it. Wallpaper Zamasu was leaking into other timelines and It took Zeno to destroy him. I don’t see anything less being able to pull it off.
5: Black stomps.
6: Pass.
7: Cui oneshots.
8: Depends on how strong Goku and Vegeta were. Maybe the Metal Coolas?
9: General Blue stomps.
10: Pass.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:16 pm

10 new fights:

1) Nuova Shenron and Eis Shenron vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) and 17 (ToP)
2) Syn Shenron vs SsjR Goku Black (ep.56 & 57)
3) Yamcha and Krillin (Buu saga) vs Tenshinan (Namek saga, after training on King Kai's planet)
4) SsjG Goku (BoG) vs Saonel and Pilina
5) Cumber (base) vs Hakaishin Toppo
6) Freeza (second form, Namek) vs Garlick Jr (transforned; anime filler)
7) Janemba (first form) vs Ssj2 Adult Gohan (Buu saga) and Dabura
8) Dodoria vs Dr. Wheelo
9) Piccolo (Namek saga, before fusing with Nail) vs Cui
10) Magetta vs Piccolo (ToP)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:57 pm

New matches:

- SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Super Trunks
- SSJ Goten vs. Super Vegeta
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Post by MainJPW » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:08 am

Zamasu55 wrote:10 new fights:

1) Nuova Shenron and Eis Shenron vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) and 17 (ToP)
2) Syn Shenron vs SsjR Goku Black (ep.56 & 57)
3) Yamcha and Krillin (Buu saga) vs Tenshinan (Namek saga, after training on King Kai's planet)
4) SsjG Goku (BoG) vs Saonel and Pilina
5) Cumber (base) vs Hakaishin Toppo
6) Freeza (second form, Namek) vs Garlick Jr (transforned; anime filler)
7) Janemba (first form) vs Ssj2 Adult Gohan (Buu saga) and Dabura
8) Dodoria vs Dr. Wheelo
9) Piccolo (Namek saga, before fusing with Nail) vs Cui
10) Magetta vs Piccolo (ToP)
1) Team 2 stomps.
2) Black stomps.
3) If Tenshinhan can’t manage a Shin Kikoho then Kuririn solos.
4) Goku with difficulty.
5) Cumber.
6) Piccolo was having trouble with Garlic Jr. so he wins.
7) Janemba stomps.
8) Pass.
9) Pass.
10) Magetta’s too durable.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:25 am

Zamasu55 wrote:10 new fights:

1) Nuova Shenron and Eis Shenron vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) and 17 (ToP)
2) Syn Shenron vs SsjR Goku Black (ep.56 & 57)
3) Yamcha and Krillin (Buu saga) vs Tenshinan (Namek saga, after training on King Kai's planet)
4) SsjG Goku (BoG) vs Saonel and Pilina
5) Cumber (base) vs Hakaishin Toppo
6) Freeza (second form, Namek) vs Garlick Jr (transforned; anime filler)
7) Janemba (first form) vs Ssj2 Adult Gohan (Buu saga) and Dabura
8) Dodoria vs Dr. Wheelo
9) Piccolo (Namek saga, before fusing with Nail) vs Cui
10) Magetta vs Piccolo (ToP)
1. Either Gohan or 17 solos
2. Base Black stomps
3. Krillin solos
4. The U6 Nameks stomp
5. Cumber stomps
6. Garlick jr stomps
7. Janemba wins
8. Wheelo wins, high difficulty
9. Piccolo stomps
10. Magetta wins, mid difficulty.
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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:59 pm

Golden Freeza vs Super Vegetto 3? (Both from RF; Vegetto has no time limit; Freeza has no stamina drain)
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Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Golden Freeza vs Super Vegetto 3? (Both from RF; Vegetto has no time limit; Freeza has no stamina drain)

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Post by dragon boss z » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:21 pm

Noah wrote:New match:

Android #17 (Super) vs. Super Boo-han
17 should win.
CTAkuma wrote:Ultimate Gohan(DBZ) with 1 week of prep time and knowledge of Janemba's abilities/moves vs Super Janemba
Piccolo(Kami fused) vs Semi-Perfect Cell(In character, quite cocky and arrogant)
Lord Slug(With prep time if too stompish) vs Final Form Frieza(Namek saga)
-Gohan training for a week should be enough to pull of a victory.
-Depends at what time you mean. Right after Piccolo fused with kami couldn't even beat post absorption imperfect Cell. Only after ROSAT training does Piccolo have a chance against semi perfect Cell.
-Not sure what Slug can do wit prep time. Frieza probably wins as long as he is serious.
Zamasu55 wrote:10 new fights:

1) Nuova Shenron and Eis Shenron vs Ultimate Gohan (ToP) and 17 (ToP)
2) Syn Shenron vs SsjR Goku Black (ep.56 & 57)
3) Yamcha and Krillin (Buu saga) vs Tenshinan (Namek saga, after training on King Kai's planet)
4) SsjG Goku (BoG) vs Saonel and Pilina
5) Cumber (base) vs Hakaishin Toppo
6) Freeza (second form, Namek) vs Garlick Jr (transforned; anime filler)
7) Janemba (first form) vs Ssj2 Adult Gohan (Buu saga) and Dabura
8) Dodoria vs Dr. Wheelo
9) Piccolo (Namek saga, before fusing with Nail) vs Cui
10) Magetta vs Piccolo (ToP)
3. Yamcha and Krillin should win, Krillin arguably solos.
4. Manga versions Goku stomps, anime versions the duo an win after their fusion is perfected.
9. Cui since Piccolo has no proof of being that strong, though I wouldn't be surprised if he was.
10. Magetta is physically stronger and more durable, but Piccolo's SPC may be able to pierce him.
Noah wrote:New matches:
- SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Super Trunks
- SSJ Goten vs. Super Vegeta
-Super Trunks stomps
-Super Vegeta stomps
Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Golden Freeza vs Super Vegetto 3? (Both from RF; Vegetto has no time limit; Freeza has no stamina drain)
Vegito stomps. Even ssj Vegito as of RoF would probably win. Golden Frieza could even have trouble with buu saga ssj3 Vegito with an infinite time limit, but I would give Golden Frieza the win on that one.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:48 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- SSJ Kid Trunks vs. Super Trunks
- SSJ Goten vs. Super Vegeta
The kids stomp in both scenarios. Multiple feats places them on FPSSJ Tier.
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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:16 pm

SSJ3 Vegito (Buu Saga, No time limit) vs Final Form Freeza (Res F)?

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Post by PFM18 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:34 pm

RecolorSaiyan wrote:SSJ3 Vegito (Buu Saga, No time limit) vs Final Form Freeza (Res F)?
Vegetto one shots IMO. I don't think Base Goku/Vegeta/Final Form Freeza are SSJ3 level until the events of the ToP/end of the Zamasu arc by my numbers.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Ssjcell » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:14 pm

Bora vs beginning of Dragonball Goku
Korin vs king piccolo
Grown up upa vs ranfan

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