Movies Placement

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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 6:16 am

Movie 1 Dead Zone: Takes place when Goku and Piccolo fought Raditz. They have the same power like they had vs Raditz. Raditz Arc.

Movie 2 World's Strongest: Takes place after Goku beat Vegeta and before he went to Namek. Vegeta Arc.

Movie 3 Tree Of Might: Takes place during the time Goku was training in his spaceship, Gohan and Krillin were on Namek and when Zarbon beat Vegeta. Namek Arc.

Movie 4 Lord Slug: Takes place when Goku was fighting Ginyu. Ginyu Saga.

Movie 5 Cooler's Revenge: Takes place after Goku returned to Earth without going to Yardat. Frieza Arc.

Movie 6 Cooler's Return: Takes place after Vegeta beat 19 and before 18 and 17 were revived. Androids Arc.

Movie 7 Super Android 13: Takes place after Piccolo fused with Kami, while Cell was absorbing people and just before Piccolo fought Android 17 and before the Rosat. Imperfect Cell Arc

Movie 8 Broly The Legendary Super Saiyan: Takes place after Cell went perfect and before the Cell Games. Vegeta and Trunks are ASSJs and used the Rosat just once while Goku and Gohan are Post Rosat and resting as MSSJs. Perfect Cell Arc.

Movie 9 Bojack Unbound: Takes place after the Cell Games were finished. Cell Games Arc.

Movie 10 Broly Second Coming: Takes place after the Great Saiyaman Saga and suring the beginning of the World Tournament. Great Saiyman/World Tournament Arc.

Movie 11 Bio Broly: Takes place after the World Tournament and just before Buu was hatched. World Tournament/Majin Buu Arc.

Movie 12 Fusion Reborn: Takes place after Goku returned to Other World and when Super Buu was born. Majin Buu/Fusion Arc.

Movie 13: Takes place after Super Buu absorbed Gotenks and Gohan and when Vegito was fighting Buuhan. Fusion Arc.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri May 31, 2013 6:18 am

...you do know a lot of your opinions are contradicted by official material, yes?
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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 6:20 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:...you do know a lot of your opinions are contradicted by official material, yes?
How?

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri May 31, 2013 8:49 am

Well, I can't argue much but I'd have to assume Movie 13 is after Buu, considering Vegeta is alive.
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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 10:00 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:Well, I can't argue much but I'd have to assume Movie 13 is after Buu, considering Vegeta is alive.
M13 was revealed while Buuhan was fighting Vegito. Vegeta being alive is irrelevant. He was already on Earth anyway when Yemma sent him

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri May 31, 2013 10:03 am

The 10th anniversary movie was "revealed" during the DBGT era, but takes place at the beginning of the series.

"Battle of Gods" was "revealed" 17 years after the last movie, but took place before the end of the series.

You can't just keep saying "a movie happened to premier at this point in time and so it absolutely fits in this space absolutely if you don't listen to me then I'm not going to keep talking to you even though I keep responding over and over".
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 31, 2013 10:26 am

You want actual movie placements? Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201201250833 ... aiz06.php?
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Post by FoolsGil » Fri May 31, 2013 10:36 am

I like to think most of the movies taking place in an alternate universe

World's Strongest, Tree of Might, (my favorite) and Lord Slug, happened back to back in a universe where Vegeta and Nappa presumably were killed before reaching Earth (Asteroid Field Maybe?) Leaving Goku to come to Earth knowing Kaioken, Z fighters still alive, with Yamcha with his long hair.

Super Android 13 may have happened in one of the alternate universes due to time travel. The original Trunks(who was killed by Cell) gave Goku the Switch to turn off the Androids. In that universe they end up using it on the Androids. Later Androids 13, 14, and 15 are activated.

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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 12:44 pm

VegettoEX wrote:The 10th anniversary movie was "revealed" during the DBGT era, but takes place at the beginning of the series.

"Battle of Gods" was "revealed" 17 years after the last movie, but took place before the end of the series.

You can't just keep saying "a movie happened to premier at this point in time and so it absolutely fits in this space absolutely if you don't listen to me then I'm not going to keep talking to you even though I keep responding over and over".

They can make movies and place them before its existance but not after

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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 12:45 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:You want actual movie placements? Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201201250833 ... aiz06.php?
The Daiz is wrong in many places. M3 and M6 are prime example. Besides the rest says te same I did

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 31, 2013 12:46 pm

Undertaker wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:You want actual movie placements? Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201201250833 ... aiz06.php?
The Daiz is wrong in many places. M3 and M6 are prime example. Besides the rest says te same I did
:lol: , no you are wrong in many places. The Daizenshuu trump your silly fan opinions any day.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 31, 2013 12:47 pm

Undertaker wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:You want actual movie placements? Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201201250833 ... aiz06.php?
The Daiz is wrong in many places. M3 and M6 are prime example. Besides the rest says te same I did
The Daizenshuu are wrong....because you say they are?
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri May 31, 2013 12:48 pm

I know plenty of people have already stated this to you, but: you sure like to make up a lot of arbitrary rules.

Where are all these places that the daizenshuu are wrong? 'Cuz, we kinda already covered all of that, and we're talking minor little typos here and there mostly about first-appearances. Most of what people think are "mistakes" are actually the fans mistaking what they think is mistaken, or -- like yourself -- making up arbitrary rules and getting upset when an official publication doesn't back up said arbitrary rules.
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Post by Michelle91 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:04 pm

I believe the movies taken place in a alternate universe as well seeing that Toei has done that before with their TV show franchises with the movies taken place in a AU (For example most of the Kamen Rider movies). I think Battle of Gods is the only movie that I think is canon to the franchise seeing that it had AT involvement with the story. Movie 9 and 13 could have happen in the anime, but none of the events of those two movie weren't mention once in the TV series which makes them possibly not canon to the show.
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Post by Undertaker » Fri May 31, 2013 1:24 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Undertaker wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:You want actual movie placements? Here:

http://web.archive.org/web/201201250833 ... aiz06.php?
The Daiz is wrong in many places. M3 and M6 are prime example. Besides the rest says te same I did
:lol: , no you are wrong in many places. The Daizenshuu trump your silly fan opinions any day.
Show me where I am wrong. The Daiz is wrong about M3 and M6.

VegettoEX, I said the Daiz is not even clear on when the movie takes place like it's not even made by Toei. The Daiz is wrong about M3 and M6 time line and what I said is also said by the Daiz so my opinions are backed up. I don't know what this link proves. The Daiz is full of errors

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri May 31, 2013 1:30 pm

Undertaker wrote:Show me where I am wrong. The Daiz is wrong about M3 and M6.
No you're wrong about M3 and M6. I just love your egotistical attitude toward. "My word is above official material!" That's what you sound like :lol: .
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:50 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Undertaker wrote:Show me where I am wrong. The Daiz is wrong about M3 and M6.
No you're wrong about M3 and M6. I just love your egotistical attitude toward. "My word is above official material!" That's what you sound like :lol: .
While I have no problem disregarding the Daizenshuu when I feel that they contradict the series, such as the Gohan=Goten comment, or the Daizenshuu considering FPSSJ to be a separate form, there is no reason to ignore it just because you don't like what it says. Give a reason why it's wrong, and back it up with evidence. In case you haven't caught on yet, you saying over and over again that the movies have to match up with the anime release dates hasn't convinced anyone so far.
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Post by VegettoEX » Fri May 31, 2013 1:57 pm

Undertaker, you're not having a conversation. You don't read the actual words people are responding to you with and you're clearly not digesting any links that are provided to you. It's like you see responses, throw your hands up, and just go, "NOPE! HERE ARE MY SAME WORDS AGAIN! I HAVE MADE UP RULES FOR MYSELF AND UNLESS SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME I CANNOT SAY SOMETHING NEW."

You're just spouting the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It's getting old, and it's getting tiresome.

If you want to shout words into a void, a public message board where other people are trying to contribute is probably not your best option.
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Post by Michelle91 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:59 pm

Movie 3 most likely take place in a universe where Goku was not late and none was killed which could explain why everyone is still alive.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri May 31, 2013 2:27 pm

Like Toriyama, I consider all the movies taking place in an alternative universe. The story goes like that:

First, the 1st TV Special & Episode of Bardock happened.

Then, Dragon Ball Movies 1, 2, and 3 happened one after another.
Then, the 10th Anniversary happened, but differently. The encounters with the RRA were the same (Blue survived from M3), but instead of Goku meeting Bulma, Yamcha, etc for the first time, Bulma went & called Goku again for another DB Hunt, and reunited with Oolong, Yamcha, etc on the road.
After the RRA is defeated, Goku goes to train around the world (the filler arc takes place there, and Goku met Tenshinhan & Chaozu like in the filler, except that they were friends now). Three years later, the 22th TB happened, but without Tsuru-sennin. Tenshinhan & Chaozu reunited with Goku & co. there, to have a friendly competition (Tenshinhan trained Chaozu BTW). Tenshinhan wins, Pilaf Gang (yep, they survived as well) releases Piccolo Daimao, etc. Everything happens like in the anime at that point, up until Goku's marriage (fillers happened as well).

Then, we go to Dragon Ball Z (all the fillers happened as well). DBZ Movie 1 happens first. Then, Raditz attacks, and everything happens the same, until the fight with Vegeta & Nappa. Goku arrives earlier, so nobody dies. Vegeta kills Nappa, then gets beaten like in the anime. One senzu remained, so Goku got healed immediately. Kuririn mentioned the Namekian Dragon Balls that Vegeta & Nappa talked about, so the Z-Senshi decide to go to Namek in case Vegeta was to go there, but decide to stay to Earth for a month to train. Meanwhile, Dr. Brief builds the spaceship from Goku's spaceship.
Movie 2 happens. Gohan gets a haircut. Movie 3 happens, and then Movie 4 happens (all 3 movies happened during the 1 month break). Goku gets near-death power ups from those fights, and after Movie 4, he is as strong as he was in the manga/anime when he arrived on Namek. One month passed, and Goku, Piccolo, Gohan, Kuririn, and Bulma go to Namek. Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu stayed behind to guard the planet.
The Z-Senshi arrive on Namek to find Vegeta getting his ass kicked from Reacoom (Vegeta's adventures were the same as in the main story, minus Gohan & Kuririn). Rest on Namek happens like in the anime, up until Garlic Jr. arc, up until Trunks' arrival & Freeza's death (the 2nd TV Special happened in the future).
Movie 5 happens during the 3 years time-skip. Kami decided a few months before the Artificial Humans' arrival that he should merge with Piccolo, Dende becomes the new Kami. Movie 6 takes place.
The Artificial Humans arrive. Everything same until #16's, #17's & #18's activation. Everyone gets their ass kicked (including Super Namekian Piccolo). Bulma makes the device to deactivate the Artificial Humans, and they succeed in doing so. Goku gets healed. Movie 7 happens. Cell appears, and learns that #17 & #18 are deactivated. He finds the "dead" bodies and absorbs them to reach his Perfect Form. Cell starts training in other planets to get stronger (because he is not as strong as in the main story, since he never had to get strong enough to beat the Artificial Humans), while the Z-Senshi (Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks, Piccolo) enter the RoSaT in the same order as in the anime, but Goku doesn't focus on Gohan. After Goku & Gohan exit RoSaT, Movie 8 happens. After Vegeta's & Trunks' second trip, The Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans happens. Cell gets strong enough & announces the Cell Games. Goku decides to focus on making Gohan stronger than him. Cell Games happen as in the anime. Movie 9 happens.
Everything else happens the same, up until Videl learning how to fly. Gohan reveals her everything about Super Saiyans & Dragon Balls before the 25th TB. Movie 10 happens. 25th TB happens, and everything happens the same, until SS3 Goku kills Majin Boo (Innocent). However, Babidi escapes. Goku returns to After Life, Vegeta stays dead, Gohan returns to Earth without ever breaking the Z-Sword, the kids don't perfect Fusion (yet). Movie 11 happens. After the kids experience Bio-Broli's power, they decide to perfect Fusion to get stronger. Movie 12 happens. After the Dragon Balls get activated, Babidi collects them and revives Boo. Boo kills Babidi, Gohan restarts training with the Z-Sword. Rest of Boo arc happens like in the anime.
During the 10 years time-skip, Movie 13, JSAT Special, and Battle of Gods happen. The 28th TB arc happens. Dragon Ball GT(and its TV Special) happens. THE END.
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