Statements about Saiyan forms affecting personality?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I only know that Kuririn in Movie 7 states that SS Goku can't create a Genki Dama because he has a malicious heart in that form. There is also SS4 Goku saying that he loses his reason when in that form, I think. And there is also Piccolo saying that Gohan's softness vanished when he got the Ultimate power-up (not a SS form, but it is SS related). And of course, we know what (Golden) Oozaru does.

So, are there any other statements about Saiyan forms (any form, both from manga & anime) that state that the Saiyan's personality changes?

[Flame Dragon]

There is also SS4 Goku saying that he loses his reason when in that form, I think.

Which makes no sense since i don't remember ever seeing a SSJ4 lose control and go on a rampage. Hell, i think SSJ4 is the most calm form out of all of them, since you need to retain reason as a Gold Oozaru to go SSJ4 and SSJ4 Goku seems to fight really smartly.

[Blade]

I only know that Kuririn in Movie 7 states that SS Goku can't create a Genki Dama because he has a malicious heart in that form. There is also SS4 Goku saying that he loses his reason when in that form, I think.

It didn't really help how much the Funimation dub hammed up the personality changes induced by Super Saiyan 4, but I think for sure more than any other Super Saiyan form it's definitely a factor.

I think that a regular Super Saiyan was intended to have that level of intensity when it was introduced, but as the story progressed it was sort of marginalised. Toriyama tried again to introduce a cold, menacing and vengeful personality in Super Saiyan 2 when Gohan first transformed, and again, to some extent with Goku in Super Saiyan 3, but I guess what they all have in common is that any dramatic changes in personality are only really seen the first time the transformation is shown - probably more for dramatic impact than anything. Super Saiyan 4 is the only transformation that consistently seems to depict any change from a person's regular personality.

And there is also Piccolo saying that Gohan's softness vanished when he got the Ultimate power-up

I think he's referring more to his body language, demeanor and appearance - as opposed to making a judgement on how his new form has affected his behavior. Anyone can look mean and pissed off in a given moment.

[Low Tone G]

Yeah, Goku and Gohan had some changes being SSJ and SSJ2, but with traning and self-control the saiyan can overcome these emotions, like Goku did in SSJ and SSJ2 thereafter. And I also think the SSJ4 is the most stable form both power-wise and emotion-wise. The SSJ God transformation also doesn't have any effect on the saiyan's personality.

[dbgtFO]

Before Vegeta starts fighting #19, he says:

So that’s your level… I didn’t mention it, but… When I become a Super Saiyan, I grow even more brutal… And I get a little excited… You don’t feel pain, do you? How Lucky.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-343/

[TheDevilsCorpse]

In chapter 387, while training in the RoSaT, after Goku mentions that mastering Super Saiyan as their natural form will be the best in terms of ki conservation, he also states that they need to get rid of that restless feeling as something separate from the energy matter.

Also, the SEG saying that Super Saiyan 3 has a calmer heart implies that the others are agitated.

[Super Vegetto]

From some guide:

[picture of SSj Goku, I think from before he fights No.19] When he transforms into a Super Saiyan, even his personality becomes wild. This is because he is in a continuous agitated state, increasing his ferocity.

[regular Vegeta in front of the Room of Spirit and Time door] Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan through his calm heart of pure evil!

Super Saiyan Grade Five (Strongest Form)
An aura with sparks like flashes of lightning and an upright, combative hairstyle are the distinguishing features of this, the strongest Saiyan warrior! One's personality also becomes aggressive; even the ordinarily gentle Gohan started to enjoy battle! Its power is enough to push back even Cell's energy bullet, which had enough force to blow away the Solar System!

[Polyphase Avatron]

SSJG also needs 6 pure-hearted Saiyans so it's probably less aggressive.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think he's referring more to his body language, demeanor and appearance - as opposed to making a judgement on how his new form has affected his behavior. Anyone can look mean and pissed off in a given moment.

I doubt it's only this, Piccolo mistook him for an enemy, and said that his type of ki had changed & his softness had vanished, which is why he couldn't tell who he was.

[ABED]

Gohan simply matured and grew more confident.

There's stated and then there's what happens, Goku doesn't lose reason as SS4.

[picture of SSj Goku, I think from before he fights No.19] When he transforms into a Super Saiyan, even his personality becomes wild. This is because he is in a continuous agitated state, increasing his ferocity.

I disagree with this assessment, this is just Goku becoming battle ready. Did Goku become more wild against 19?

[Super Vegetto]

Gohan simply matured and grew more confident.

There's stated and then there's what happens, Goku doesn't lose reason as SS4.

[picture of SSj Goku, I think from before he fights No.19] When he transforms into a Super Saiyan, even his personality becomes wild. This is because he is in a continuous agitated state, increasing his ferocity.

I disagree with this assessment, this is just Goku becoming battle ready. Did Goku become more wild against 19?

Yes, he goes for kill...

[ABED]

He's Vegeta, of course he goes for the kill. That's nothing new to him. He's killed mountains of people.

[Super Vegetto]

He's Vegeta, of course he goes for the kill. That's nothing new to him. He's killed mountains of people.

I was talking about Goku, who failed but went for kill...

[ABED]

He's Vegeta, of course he goes for the kill. That's nothing new to him. He's killed mountains of people.

I was talking about Goku, who failed but went for kill...

He's killed before without going Super Saiyan, I fail to see how that means Super Saiyan makes someone aggressive.

[Super Vegetto]

He's Vegeta, of course he goes for the kill. That's nothing new to him. He's killed mountains of people.

I was talking about Goku, who failed but went for kill...

He's killed before without going Super Saiyan, I fail to see how that means Super Saiyan makes someone aggressive.

Lol i don't understand this anymore xD

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Gohan simply matured and grew more confident.

How did he matured? By sitting still for many hours?

There's stated and then there's what happens, Goku doesn't lose reason as SS4.

Here is the exact quote:

When I turn Super Saiyan 4, there's this teensy little part of my rationality that dashes away. *Goku attacks Qi Xing Long* Once I get like this, I don't know what becomes of me!

And yes, that's what happens as well. When in base, he couldn't hit Qi Xing Long because he had absorbed Pan, but after transforming, he had no problem hurting him.

[ABED]

Gohan simply matured and grew more confident.

How did he matured? By sitting still for many hours?

There's stated and then there's what happens, Goku doesn't lose reason as SS4.

Here is the exact quote:

When I turn Super Saiyan 4, there's this teensy little part of my rationality that dashes away. *Goku attacks Qi Xing Long* Once I get like this, I don't know what becomes of me!

And yes, that's what happens as well. When in base, he couldn't hit Qi Xing Long because he had absorbed Pan, but after transforming, he had no problem hurting him.

He also got his ass handed to him, and that time sitting on his ass probably gave him time to reflect. He's not evil or malicious, he's just confident.

That quote's great, but demonstrate Goku losing his rationality. He doesn't lose his rationality at all, he gets Pan back in one piece. He didn't do anything to harm her.

Goku has never been more aggressive as Super Saiyan as he has at any other point in the series. After Kuririn is killed by Tambourine, that might be the most volatile we ever see him.

[sekzee]

Goku acted with his emotions pretty much throughout the series up until he trained with Kami/Popo, and even then he couldn't quite pull away from doing so.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

He also got his ass handed to him, and that time sitting on his ass probably gave him time to reflect. He's not evil or malicious, he's just confident.

So, it is confidence that made Piccolo to mistake him for an enemy? And it's confidence that make Gohan say "I'll kill you, you retard"?

That quote's great, but demonstrate Goku losing his rationality. He doesn't lose his rationality at all, he gets Pan back in one piece. He didn't do anything to harm her.

He was hitting the guy that had absorbed her, while he couldn't do it when he was in base because he was afraid that he would hurt her.

Goku has never been more aggressive as Super Saiyan as he has at any other point in the series. After Kuririn is killed by Tambourine, that might be the most volatile we ever see him.

Then why does he appear angry in every single panel as a Super Saiyan (relaxed Super Saiyan Full Power scenes don't count for obvious reasons)?

[Blade]

Then why does he appear angry in every single panel as a Super Saiyan (relaxed Super Saiyan Full Power scenes don't count for obvious reasons)?

That's probably more to do with the fact that we rarely see Super Saiyan outside of a conflict situation. Even in his normal state, Goku always looks pretty mean in battles.