Why is the gap between SSJ2 and SSJ3 so small?

[Super Neko Majin]

The gap between unlocking Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is massive. You need an absolutely enormous power chain to get from one to the other. On the other hand, someone can be just a little bit stronger than they were when they got Super Saiyan 2, maybe not even strong enough to curbstomp, and they can get a whole new SSJ level. Why?

[Gog]

Its. Not. Because in the entirety of the whole canonical series, only two people have ever managed to get it, the magical imbecile Gotenks, and Goku. If it was any easier, then Vegeta would have gotten it

[sintzu]

It took Goku 7 or so years to get it.

Gotenks needed the power of 2 kids who were already strong and could go Ssj, a massive power up from the fusion & 2-3 weeks of training in the ROSAT.

Goku loses all his power after using it and Gotenks defuses after 5 minutes so not only is it the hardest from the reach but it's so hard to use that it's arguably a disadvantage to use it in battle compared to Ssj2 (only taking the manga into account).

If it was any easier, then Vegeta would have gotten it.

Vegeta's base is far beyond what's required to use it so he could if he wanted to.

[DSB]

Its. Not. Because in the entirety of the whole canonical series, only two people have ever managed to get it, the magical imbecile Gotenks, and Goku. If it was any easier, then Vegeta would have gotten it

You DO understand Vegeta got God Ki and SSB ON HIS OWN , Goku didnt , right ????

[nickzambuto]

Its. Not. Because in the entirety of the whole canonical series, only two people have ever managed to get it, the magical imbecile Gotenks, and Goku. If it was any easier, then Vegeta would have gotten it

You DO understand Vegeta got God Ki and SSB ON HIS OWN , Goku didnt , right ????

So what? We're talking about Super Saiyan 3 here.

[TheZFighter]

The gap between SSJ2 and SSJ3 is huge. SSJ3 isn't easy to get and it is just as hard to maintain.

[Gog]

Vegeta's base is far beyond what's required to use it so he could if he wanted to.

Su~ure Vegeta could get it. Honestly now that there's god ki, and SSB he has no goddamn reason to even think of getting a useless form

[sintzu]

Honestly now that there's god ki, and SSB he has no goddamn reason to even hink of getting a useless form

If a villain could get stronger fighting god Ki then him and Goku would be forced to go back down to 3 or 2.

[Gog]

Honestly now that there's god ki, and SSB he has no goddamn reason to even hink of getting a useless form

If a villain could get stronger fighting god Ki then him and Goku would be forced to go back down to 3 or 2.

The chance's are so unlikely of that happening. That I almost salivate the chance of that happening, considering that Vegeta doesn't actually have SS3 it'll force him to team up with Goku. Something not even Freeza could do

[Ki Breaker]

Honestly now that there's god ki, and SSB he has no goddamn reason to even hink of getting a useless form

If a villain could get stronger fighting god Ki then him and Goku would be forced to go back down to 3 or 2.

The chance's are so unlikely of that happening. That I almost salivate the chance of that happening, considering that Vegeta doesn't actually have SS3 it'll force him to team up with Goku. Something not even Freeza could do

If we go by the manga continuity, vegeta supposedly kept his mutated SS2 state which is stronger than SS3 goku..
Even if Anime dosen't confirm he kept it, it dosen't deny it either..
Both ways Vegeta doesn't need locks longer than his very height

[sintzu]

The chance's are so unlikely of that happening.

You're probably right.

other than forcing Goku and Vegeta to use their older forms, it'll bring them closer to everyone else' level which will give them an excuse to use them in a main fight.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's only easy to achieve in the extended video game universe. In reality, we still have no idea how it's unlocked, so we can't say how difficult it actually is.

[Lord Beerus]

I think SSJ3 is a fluke transformation. There was zero indication that Goku could pull it off in the Majin Boo arc, yet he did it just by... powering up. And Gotenks got a bit lucky thanks to being a fused character.

[ekrolo2]

I think SSJ3 is a fluke transformation. There was zero indication that Goku could pull it off in the Majin Boo arc, yet he did it just by... powering up. And Gotenks got a bit lucky thanks to being a fused character.

I'd say you're right in that its a fluke in that Goku probably discovered it by accident in the afterlife but the later stuff clearly says that Goku knew 3 existed beforehand. Toriyama just fails at having that retroactively make sense when Goku specifically powers up to 2 (or his full power at the time) so he can win his fight against Vegeta quickly.

[Big Green The Yoshi]

It isn't. The SEG multipliers are garbage.

[Gog]

It isn't. The SEG multipliers are garbage.

Boi, Boi, Boi, a 10% difference in power is all you need for a stomp. 2x, and 4x is more than enough

[SaiyanZ]

You DO understand Vegeta got God Ki and SSB ON HIS OWN , Goku didnt , right ????

Vegeta got it because he trained with Whis. That's not some big accomplishment or some "hold" over Goku. He could never get god ki on his own.

[Freeza9000]

You DO understand Vegeta got God Ki and SSB ON HIS OWN , Goku didnt , right ????

Vegeta got it because he trained with Whis. That's not some big accomplishment or some "hold" over Goku. He could never get god ki on his own.

Adding to the fact that if Goku never did the ritual and trained with Whis for 6 months like Vegeta did, Goku would've gotten the same accomplishment. SSJG is just a shortcut to god tier for pure hearted Saiyans.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Its. Not. Because in the entirety of the whole canonical series, only two people have ever managed to get it, the magical imbecile Gotenks, and Goku. If it was any easier, then Vegeta would have gotten it

You DO understand Vegeta got God Ki and SSB ON HIS OWN , Goku didnt , right ????

Umm no.

Vegeta got it by training with Whis. Had he never done that he never would have achieved it. Whether Whis personally unlocked the transformation or he found it on his own during training has nothing to do with the fact that without said training he NEVER would have accomplished it.

Also Goku never had the chance to unlock it in that fashion so to say Vegeta did anything "better" or "with less help" is just being a Vegeta fanboy.

As to the original question:

It actually is a huge gap. Lets say your power level is 2 and you have a 50x multiplier. You now have a PL of 100. Okay now lets say your PL is 1 million with a 4x multiplier. It would be 4 million.

Even though the modifier on example A is much larger you only gained 98 PL where in example B with the smaller modifier you gained 3 million PL. The modifier itself for SSJ3 may be smaller but the actual gap between it and 2 is massive.