Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Kamiccolo9]

Cell's regeneration gimmick means that growing larger actually might have proven useful. That's a lot more volume to destroy.

A lot more mass to regenerate too, though, without a corresponding power boost. Which could be somewhat of a liability, considering Namekian regeneration uses up energy.

[miguelnuva1]

If Cell would have broke out Kaio-Ken and still lost to ssj2 Gohan that would have been a huge increaae in power for Gohan.

Not only would KKaio-Ken perfect Cell have been powerless, Gohan would have over powered SPC with Kaio Ken.

[Noah]

I would prefer Cell to beat Hirudegarn in his normal size

[Duo]

Moments like these are why DBM is so damned fantastic. I NEVER even considered the idea of a Cell vs Hildegarn Kaiju battle. This is so hysterical and awesome. I love it.

[coola]

Really loving this art. and it seems like Tapion gonna lose, unless something will happen

[ekrolo2]

Hirudegarn still hasn't transformed which might put the odds back into his favor.

[FoolsGil]

Ummm....Why isn't Hildegarn turning into smoke?

[rereboy]

Ummm....Why isn't Hildegarn turning into smoke?

You could ask the same regarding any fighter dodging attacks. The answers are pretty much the same.

[FoolsGil]

Ummm....Why isn't Hildegarn turning into smoke?

You could ask the same regarding any fighter dodging attacks. The answers are pretty much the same.

It is not the same and you know it.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I know Tapion mentioned already that he wasn't really 'controlling' Hirudegarn at this point, but maybe he's still retained enough to keep him from doing the smoke trick? I mean, just because Hirudegarn's body can do that doesn't mean Tapion's can. For all we know, Hirudegarn teleporting away like that would leave Tapion's body exposed even briefly, allowing Cell to go directly for him.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Well I was still right about Cell using the Great Namek technique in terms of his speed.

[Lord Beerus]

Did Cell just copy Gohan?

If so, that is one hell of a call back.

[Regarder]

I could almost believe the rapid punch exclamations were a subtle nod to JoJo. Hildegarn is Taipon's pseuo-stand.

[rereboy]

Ummm....Why isn't Hildegarn turning into smoke?

You could ask the same regarding any fighter dodging attacks. The answers are pretty much the same.

It is not the same and you know it.

Its exactly the same. A lot of fights in Dragon Ball (and outside of Dragon Ball) have a fighter managing to dodge some attacks from their adversary but not all. This happens because their adversary is pretty powerful and fast and so, even though the fighters might be able to dodge some attacks, they will not be able to dodge all of the attacks. The only difference between those fights and this one is that Hirudegarn has an ability that helps him dodge attacks, but not even that ability allows Hirudegarn to dodge every one of Cell's attacks due to Cell's power and speed.

In fact, the only fights where some of this doesn't happen are the fights where one of the fighters is so much more powerful and faster than his adversary that the adversary can't even touch him once.

In short, just because a fighter managed to dodge a few attacks from his adversary it doesn't mean he will be able to do it regarding all of them, and just because Hirudegarn managed to dodge a few attacks from his adversary with the help of smoke ability it doesn't mean he will be able to do it regarding all of them. And the reasons for it are exactly the same.

(And, if you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from assuming what I supposedly know...)

[FoolsGil]

Its exactly the same. A lot of fights in Dragon Ball (and outside of Dragon Ball) have a fighter managing to dodge some attacks from their adversary but not all. This happens because their adversary is pretty powerful and fast and so, even though the fighters might be able to dodge some attacks, they will not be able to dodge all of the attacks. The only difference between those fights and this one is that Hirudegarn has an ability that helps him dodge attacks, but not even that ability allows Hirudegarn to dodge every one of Cell's attacks due to Cell's power and speed.

In fact, the only fights where some of this doesn't happen are the fights where one of the fighters is so much more powerful and faster than his adversary that the adversary can't even touch him once.

In short, just because a fighter managed to dodge a few attacks from his adversary it doesn't mean he will be able to do it regarding all of them, and just because Hirudegarn managed to dodge a few attacks from his adversary with the help of smoke ability it doesn't mean he will be able to do it regarding all of them. And the reasons for it are exactly the same.

(And, if you don't mind, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from assuming what I supposedly know...)

I apologize for assuming you know DBZ like you pretend to.

Hildegarn isn't like normal fighters. Hildegarn is a smoke vanishing demon who disappears into a puff of smoke every time he is looking to be struck. He disappears so much that his defeat to Goku in Wrath of the Dragon is like "Well, we can't let the bad guy win, give Goku a new attack to deus ex machina a victory" So at the very least, normal attacks, like what Cell did, should not have that impact on the vanishing demon. Of course the best answer I heard was from Gyt Kaliba, it makes more sense than the only source material that shows Hildegarn fighting being ignored, with some paltry excuse.

[rereboy]

Hildegarn isn't like normal fighters. Hildegarn is a smoke vanishing demon who disappears into a puff of smoke every time he is looking to be struck. He disappears so much that his defeat to Goku in Wrath of the Dragon is like "Well, we can't let the bad guy win, give Goku a new attack to deus ex machina a victory" So at the very least, normal attacks, like what Cell did, should not have that impact on the vanishing demon. Of course the best answer I heard was from Gyt Kaliba, it makes more sense than the only source material that shows Hildegarn fighting being ignored, with some paltry excuse.

Hirudegarn turns to smoke while any other fighter would resort to teleporting, flying out of the way, sidestepping or twisting their heads or torso out of harm's way.

Turning to smoke might be even faster and more effective than any of those other options but it still relies on the power, attention, speed and reaction time of Hirudegarn like those other options do regarding other fighters.

Against an adversary powerful enough and fast enough to put Hirudegarn's power, attention, speed and reaction time in check, Hirudegarn will not be able to avoid everything, just like another fighter will not be able to dodge everything, even if he can dodge some of it.

Even in Hirudegarn's movie he wasn't able to dodge everything with his smoke ability. For example, Gotenks hits him with a complete barrage of Ki blasts. Why didn't he just avoid it with his smoke ability? For the same reasons a fighter might miss a dodge. Gotenks, his adversary, was powerful and fast enough to capitalize on the circumstances of the fight and so Hirudegarn was hit.

With Cell in this fight, it's similar. Even though Hirudegarn can dodge some of Cell's attacks with his smoke ability, Cell is strong and fast enough to be able to capitalize on the circumstances of the fight, to put Hirudegarn's power, attention, speed and reaction time in check, and hit him.

I apologize for assuming you know DBZ like you pretend to.

I will continue to ask you to not assume stuff about me just because you disagree with me.

The fact that you don't agree with what I'm saying doesn't mean that I know that what I'm saying is incorrect or that I pretend to know DBZ or that there is some fault in my DBZ knowledge. Those are simply your assumptions about me, which I respectfully asked you not to make for obvious reasons.

[coola]

Silly Vegetto With all respect, i hope that Babidi subplot will be finished quickly, i dislike this character so much

[FoolsGil]

Is it just me or Vegetto just all over the place emotionally? The mood swings on this guy.

[FlpShimizu]

Is it just me or Vegetto just all over the place emotionally? The mood swings on this guy.

I wonder if he'll fall for Babidi's spell and start that mess Bardock saw in his vision.

[Noah]

Who the f*** is that fox?