Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion
Actually I don't think FUNi can crop DB or GT hence why they didn't for the Blue and Green Bricks. If they ever release them on BD it will probably be in 4x3.
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sangofe wrote:If anything, good sales from this will have them crop DB and GT in the same matter, too.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:I'm glad this is selling good. I don't like the cropping but hopefully good sales pushes funimation to wise up and get the license for the dragon box GT and the movies and the original dragonball.
Apparently these sets are in some ways BETTER and in some ways worse then the Orange boxes. At least if the youtube comparisons are legitimate.
Well they seamed to have learned their lesson after the OrangeBricks because GT and Ball were not cropped......but then the blu rays came out.
Honestly I want what we got from the LEVEL sets of the blu rays, not the season sets. I don't care if they can't do the expensive remastering process, just give us that screen size. It's like this
original funi single screen size.-100% of the footage from TV
remastered sets-55% of what was on TV
blu ray season sets-50%
dragonboxes-110%
blu ray level sets-180%
There's so much screen missing from what was drawn because there's some process called framing or letterboxing one of the two I think and it only gives you the center. If you buy a animation cell from the show you'll see how much is missing if you compare it even to a dragon box screenshot.
I wanna see all of it! Or at least as much as you can because it's basically new footage.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion
They most certainly could crop them. The same logic applies to DBZ... but they certainly cropped them for the DVD releases.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Actually I don't think FUNi can crop DB or GT hence why they didn't for the Blue and Green Bricks. If they ever release them on BD it will probably be in 4x3.
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Funi only cropped Z. not GT or ball. I'm not 100% on ball but I know GT was the same as the dvd singles.ect5150 wrote:They most certainly could crop them. The same logic applies to DBZ... but they certainly cropped them for the DVD releases.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Actually I don't think FUNi can crop DB or GT hence why they didn't for the Blue and Green Bricks. If they ever release them on BD it will probably be in 4x3.
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That's a massive exaggeration. There was nowhere near that much of a difference.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Honestly I want what we got from the LEVEL sets of the blu rays, not the season sets. I don't care if they can't do the expensive remastering process, just give us that screen size. It's like this
original funi single screen size.-100% of the footage from TV
remastered sets-55% of what was on TV
blu ray season sets-50%
dragonboxes-110%
blu ray level sets-180%
There's so much screen missing from what was drawn because there's some process called framing or letterboxing one of the two I think and it only gives you the center. If you buy a animation cell from the show you'll see how much is missing if you compare it even to a dragon box screenshot.
I wanna see all of it! Or at least as much as you can because it's basically new footage.
Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion
The Blue Bricks were zoomed in a bit, so you lost footage on all sides. That and the transfer looks pretty bad overall; I gave the DVDs a look a weeks ago after not watching them for a few years, and they did not hold up well.
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Well admittingly I've never done calculations but the level sets give the the most in terms of footage. If you look at a scene of dragonbox next to the level sets it makes the dragon boxes look cropped and zoomed n. I wish someone had screenshots to share. I might have to do that soon myself to help support my case but I'm telling the truth man. RIP level sets90sDBZ wrote:That's a massive exaggeration. There was nowhere near that much of a difference.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Honestly I want what we got from the LEVEL sets of the blu rays, not the season sets. I don't care if they can't do the expensive remastering process, just give us that screen size. It's like this
original funi single screen size.-100% of the footage from TV
remastered sets-55% of what was on TV
blu ray season sets-50%
dragonboxes-110%
blu ray level sets-180%
There's so much screen missing from what was drawn because there's some process called framing or letterboxing one of the two I think and it only gives you the center. If you buy a animation cell from the show you'll see how much is missing if you compare it even to a dragon box screenshot.
I wanna see all of it! Or at least as much as you can because it's basically new footage.
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What you get in added image does not make up for the lack of detail in the dark areas:
I'd still much rather watch my Dragon Boxes. Though I will admit the Level Sets' dark issues do lessen the further into the series you get. It's still not perfect, though:
I'd still much rather watch my Dragon Boxes. Though I will admit the Level Sets' dark issues do lessen the further into the series you get. It's still not perfect, though:
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Ajay wrote:What you get in added image does not make up for the lack of detail in the dark areas:
I'd still much rather watch my Dragon Boxes. Though I will admit the Level Sets' dark issues do lessen the further into the series you get. It's still not perfect, though:
I don't have that much darkness when I pop in my sets. Strange, maybe I'm mistaken. I also recall more of a difference. Were those taken at the same time in the episodes? A few seconds can make a difference where the log for example is as it falls down the river.
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The darkness is a result of FUNi's masters. It's present on all of the releases done using their own masters. Nothing to do with specific timings in the episode, though I appreciate that kinda thing can make a difference depending on the scene. Definitely not the case in this regard, however.
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I meant the size being effected by the time paused not the coloring. Funi certainly made the screen darker for the Ultimate Remastered sets. The ones that came out before the orange bricks.Ajay wrote:The darkness is a result of FUNi's masters. It's present on all of the releases done using their own masters. Nothing to do with specific timings in the episode, though I appreciate that kinda thing can make a difference depending on the scene. Definitely not the case in this regard, however.
That's a repeated feet for Funimation. Make a good re-release. Then cancle it after the first season's almost done and then RE-RE-RELEASE it with more episodes bundle in inferior quality. (cough remastered from Ultimate sets. Cough)...(Cough blu ray season sets from the vastly superior level sets Cough) Seams very disrespectful honestly. (not hating on Funi just to make things clear.)
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I still prefer the level sets. Sure the blacks are crushed sometimes but to me that's preferable over the washed out colors and I feel like the first picture on the right seems a little too bright. Neither are perfect but if I have to choose between footage that's too dark and footage that's too bright, I'd go with the darker one. Just my preference though. Plus I'm not sure if it's just the HD or not but the levels just look....better. Still wish I bought the Dragon Boxes over the season blu ray sets though
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The difference is, though, that if you find the Dragon Box picture too bright, you can adjust your TV settings to make it darker. But when the source is darkened to the extent that blacks are crushed, that detail is gone, and no amount of brightness adjustment on your TV is going to fix that.
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How's the selective cropping in season 9? I read somewhere it's rather poor in several places.
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The cropping is pretty inconsistent throughout all of the sets, honestly. It's better than the Orange Bricks on the whole, but for something that's supposedly done manually, it's pretty poor.SSJ Electric Fury wrote:How's the selective cropping in season 9? I read somewhere it's rather poor in several places.
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Yeah... No, thanks, i'll stick with my Dragon Boxes, like forever.Ajay wrote:The cropping is pretty inconsistent throughout all of the sets, honestly. It's better than the Orange Bricks on the whole, but for something that's supposedly done manually, it's pretty poor.SSJ Electric Fury wrote:How's the selective cropping in season 9? I read somewhere it's rather poor in several places.
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What's wrong with Season 9's remastering ?
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well the last post before you has a comparison you should check out,it shows there footage that even the VERY cropped orange bricks has,which is missing in the blu rays. They need to just od what they did with the level sets,even if they don't have the same remastering,just give me the same screen size,it was the best to me.sintzu wrote:What's wrong with Season 9's remastering ?
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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion
As you can see with the screenshots above the Blu-ray has crisper colours, but the framing on the Orange Bricks is better (in parts).sintzu wrote:What's wrong with Season 9's remastering ?
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What doed od stand for? I can't figure out the meaning and i spend crazy hours reading here. I feel like i should know what od stands for lol.LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:well the last post before you has a comparison you should check out,it shows there footage that even the VERY cropped orange bricks has,which is missing in the blu rays. They need to just od what they did with the level sets,even if they don't have the same remastering,just give me the same screen size,it was the best to me.sintzu wrote:What's wrong with Season 9's remastering ?