Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[BlazingBarrrager]

lol Kakarotto sure doesn't know how to aim.

[dbgtFO]

[Hellspawn28]

I like the artwork. This is what I would imagine a American Dragon Ball comic book series would look like if IDW or Boom! Studios publish one.

[Lord Beerus]

The artstyle is giving me such an 80s American Comic Book vibe. I dig that.

[Dbzfan94]

Well...that...escalated quickly. Poor guy.

How the hell did he even hide that armor under those clothes?

It can work just like Gohan's Saiyaman costume and be voice activated, rather than pressing a button on a watch.

Wait, Gohans Saiyaman outfit is voice activated? Since when?

[dbgtFO]

It can work just like Gohan's Saiyaman costume and be voice activated, rather than pressing a button on a watch.

Wait, Gohans Saiyaman outfit is voice activated? Since when?

Ah, I should have written but instead of and in that sentence, sorry about that.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I'm wondering if Kakarotto can even tell the difference between who to kill and who to not kill.

[coola]

[Kamiccolo9]

"Toc?"

[dbgtFO]

"Toc?"

French version of "tap," I imagine.
inb4 that sound effect is not called "tap" in English written comics.

[rereboy]

Sound effects can be whatever we want. Toriyama for example I believe used to do things like having a tin can go "can, can, can," as it rolls around.

[Scarz]

Oh, a female fighter is going to fight Kakarot?

[FoolsGil]

When you go to the DBM Universe Listing Page (http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/listing.html) and you look at U19 (Helior) the message written for them is:

In most universes, planet Helior was never attacked and lived in peace, as Freeza's empire was destroyed by other people. In this one, they were attacked, fought back and won. After that, they went on destroying all Freeza's empire.

Isn't U13,part of most of the universes? Because we now see Helior's fighting force active in two universes. Not a problem, except apparently in U19 they ransacked the PTO. and later destroyed Buu. So how the hell can these same fighters in one universe be the saviors of the galaxy and in another lose to flunkies? And you know they will lose to Raditz and Kakarot because this is their universe and story.

This wouldn't be a problem if the quote on the Helior page was accurate, and in U13 there were no fighting armors, and they had rifles or at best, prototypes. But it looks like U13 Helior is just like U19 Helior before they were invaded, and chances are that young Helior that Kakarot will probably rape later? Is likely someone who's going to go off and kill the Ginyu Force in U19. How does that even work?

[rereboy]

They probably hadn't yet decided to use helior in the backstory for this universe when they wrote that.

[FoolsGil]

They probably hadn't yet decided to use helior in the backstory for this universe when they wrote that.

Let's say that now the DBM Heliors are retconned. I'm fine with that happening. But it doesn't explain how the U13 Helior army is going to be destroyed, but U19 Helior Army will win the day and move on to defeat Freeza

[Pantalones]

This was apparently the planet Vegeta and Nappa wanted to get Goku to help with, going by what Raditz said earlier in this special. So I'm guessing the reason they were never attacked in most universes was because Raditz, Vegeta, and Nappa all came to Earth, got their butts kicked, and then (in Vegeta's case, being the only not-dead one of the three) abandoned the whole attacking-planets thing to go to Namek, so nobody from Freeza's forces ever ended up going after them in the end.

I'm assuming that in this universe the Saiyans attack before Helior's armor/weapons have been developed to anywhere near the level we see in the tournament, so they'll be able to beat them... they have the battle armors and everything, they're just not nearly as good as the ones they had later on (in another alternate universe) that were powerful enough to defeat Freeza's empire. On the other hand, in the universe where these guys are the tournament contestants, they had more time to develop the armor/weapons and ended up making them ridiculously powerful before anyone from Freeza's army came after them (we know the Ginyu Force's next assignment was Yardrat, so unless Helior was high priority enough to be next in line after that, chances are that nobody would've gotten to them for a while.)

[FoolsGil]

This was apparently the planet Vegeta and Nappa wanted to get Goku to help with, going by what Raditz said earlier in this special. So I'm guessing the reason they were never attacked in most universes was because Raditz, Vegeta, and Nappa all came to Earth, got their butts kicked, and then (in Vegeta's case, being the only not-dead one of the three) abandoned the whole attacking-planets thing to go to Namek, so nobody from Freeza's forces ever ended up going after them in the end.

I'm assuming that in this universe the Saiyans attack before Helior's armor/weapons have been developed to anywhere near the level we see in the tournament, so they'll be able to beat them... they have the battle armors and everything, they're just not nearly as good as the ones they had later on (in another alternate universe) that were powerful enough to defeat Freeza's empire. On the other hand, in the universe where these guys are the tournament contestants, they had more time to develop the armor/weapons and ended up making them ridiculously powerful before anyone from Freeza's army came after them (we know the Ginyu Force's next assignment was Yardrat, so unless Helior was high priority enough to be next in line after that, chances are that nobody would've gotten to them for a while.)

Hmm. I suppose that makes sense.

[Tzigi]

Isn't U13,part of most of the universes?

No. U13 is quite different and definitely not a part of most of the universes.

Because we now see Helior's fighting force active in two universes. Not a problem, except apparently in U19 they ransacked the PTO. and later destroyed Buu. So how the hell can these same fighters in one universe be the saviors of the galaxy and in another lose to flunkies? And you know they will lose to Raditz and Kakarot because this is their universe and story.

This wouldn't be a problem if the quote on the Helior page was accurate, and in U13 there were no fighting armors, and they had rifles or at best, prototypes. But it looks like U13 Helior is just like U19 Helior before they were invaded, and chances are that young Helior that Kakarot will probably rape later? Is likely someone who's going to go off and kill the Ginyu Force in U19. How does that even work?

There is a whole fanfic (available in English) to explain it. But in short: the first difference between u13 and u19 is that Kakarotto didn't hurt his head. When Raditz comes to take him back from Earth what happens is: in u13 they go away together, train and attack Helior just the two of them. In u19 Raditz kills Goku (not Kakarotto - Goku hurt his head there and became good):

— I did try to motivate him, but I could not get him to budge. A waste of our time; no tail, no combativity, a real push-over! He even tried teaming up against me with a some kind of walking green slug, so I disposed of them both.

In u19 Helior is attacked at another date by Vegeta, Nappa, Raditz and Kiwi. The whole story is being published now so we can be sure yet what exactly happened but so far it seems that the difference of date of attack was the key. You see, the attack of Kolloks mentioned here:

Spoiler:

isn't just some random event. In u19 Heloites are also fighting Kolloks but in u19 more ultras aren't fighting Kolloks and so manage to come fight Vegeta & co whereas here only one ultra is available. So far in u19 Raditz dies in a scene magnificently drawn by Asura:

They probably hadn't yet decided to use helior in the backstory for this universe when they wrote that.

And no, it was Helior in u13 backstory all along.

[rereboy]

They probably hadn't yet decided to use helior in the backstory for this universe when they wrote that.

Let's say that now the DBM Heliors are retconned. I'm fine with that happening. But it doesn't explain how the U13 Helior army is going to be destroyed, but U19 Helior Army will win the day and move on to defeat Freeza

Most likely their weapons in this universe aren't as powerful. They are lacking a few decades of development and its another universe. Pretty easy to fit.

And no, it was Helior in u13 backstory all along.

If you say so. It's fine by me either way. It's been years since they wrote that description. If they had changed something like that it wouldn't be a problem.

[Tzigi]

They probably hadn't yet decided to use helior in the backstory for this universe when they wrote that.

Let's say that now the DBM Heliors are retconned. I'm fine with that happening. But it doesn't explain how the U13 Helior army is going to be destroyed, but U19 Helior Army will win the day and move on to defeat Freeza

Most likely their weapons in this universe aren't as powerful. They are lacking a few decades of development and its another universe. Pretty easy to fit.

The attack takes place around the same time - at most a year of difference. It's rather the problem of numbers - in u13 there's just one ultra available. In u19 the attacking force under Vegeta encounters several ultras so the odds are different. If they arrived on the same day as Kakarotto and Raditz, then the Heloites in u19 would have been wiped out as well.