Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Mewzard]

Couldn't we have gotten some Universe 19 side chapters and let Universe 13 have the minis? I'm far more interested in their whole setup (and the universe where Humans are awesome).

[Noah]

These side stories are so boring, I wonder if we will get to the main story real soon...

[Tzigi]

These side stories are so boring, I wonder if we will get to the main story real soon...

This "minicomic" is 3 pages long - the last one arrives tomorrow (19.02.2016). The cover for the next main chapter will be out on 21.02.2016, the first story page then most likely on 24.02.2016. But sadly after this chapter of the main story we come back to the u13 Raditz and Kakarotto on Helior snorefest - I disliked the chapter and the minicomic so much, I actually for the first time since 2008 (when I started translating DBM) had trouble meeting the deadlines - I just couldn't get myself to translate it since it bored me so much.

[Noah]

This "minicomic" is 3 pages long - the last one arrives tomorrow (19.02.2016). The cover for the next main chapter will be out on 21.02.2016, the first story page then most likely on 24.02.2016. But sadly after this chapter of the main story we come back to the u13 Raditz and Kakarotto on Helior snorefest - I disliked the chapter and the minicomic so much, I actually for the first time since 2008 (when I started translating DBM) had trouble meeting the deadlines - I just couldn't get myself to translate it since it bored me so much.

I know, right? I mean I know this is a fan made manga, but they could inspire more in Toriyama, look at DB manga, it rarely had character backstory explanations, they don't need to explain every friggin' universe story, it's dull.

[apex_pretador]

This "minicomic" is 3 pages long - the last one arrives tomorrow (19.02.2016). The cover for the next main chapter will be out on 21.02.2016, the first story page then most likely on 24.02.2016. But sadly after this chapter of the main story we come back to the u13 Raditz and Kakarotto on Helior snorefest - I disliked the chapter and the minicomic so much, I actually for the first time since 2008 (when I started translating DBM) had trouble meeting the deadlines - I just couldn't get myself to translate it since it bored me so much.

I know, right? I mean I know this is a fan made manga, but they could inspire more in Toriyama, look at DB manga, it rarely had character backstory explanations, they don't need to explain every friggin' universe story, it's dull.

if anything, I'll like to know about U-9 (humans) story and freeza battle of U13, nothing else.

[rereboy]

This "minicomic" is 3 pages long - the last one arrives tomorrow (19.02.2016). The cover for the next main chapter will be out on 21.02.2016, the first story page then most likely on 24.02.2016. But sadly after this chapter of the main story we come back to the u13 Raditz and Kakarotto on Helior snorefest - I disliked the chapter and the minicomic so much, I actually for the first time since 2008 (when I started translating DBM) had trouble meeting the deadlines - I just couldn't get myself to translate it since it bored me so much.

I know, right? I mean I know this is a fan made manga, but they could inspire more in Toriyama, look at DB manga, it rarely had character backstory explanations, they don't need to explain every friggin' universe story, it's dull.

Once again, they only do it to stall for time for the main chapters. They don't actually "really want" to do these specials and mini-comics, it's just an easy way to stall for time. If the mini-comics and specials had the same kind of resources put into them they would be a need for something to stall for time for the mini-comics and specials, as well as the main chapters.

[jjgp1112]

This "minicomic" is 3 pages long - the last one arrives tomorrow (19.02.2016). The cover for the next main chapter will be out on 21.02.2016, the first story page then most likely on 24.02.2016. But sadly after this chapter of the main story we come back to the u13 Raditz and Kakarotto on Helior snorefest - I disliked the chapter and the minicomic so much, I actually for the first time since 2008 (when I started translating DBM) had trouble meeting the deadlines - I just couldn't get myself to translate it since it bored me so much.

I know, right? I mean I know this is a fan made manga, but they could inspire more in Toriyama, look at DB manga, it rarely had character backstory explanations, they don't need to explain every friggin' universe story, it's dull.

If these special chapters weren't made, then there'd simply be a long break between chapters. All these chapters are are intermissions while Asura takes time off from drawing. We're lucky we even get anything at all.

[Scarz]

Just got the okay to talk about this (a little) but I'll be working on another special for DBM!

Spoiler:

I promise not to disappoint.

[Mewzard]

Just got the okay to talk about this (a little) but I'll be working on another special for DBM!

I promise not to disappoint.

Another special? Congrats! Can't wait to see how that one goes.

Also, new cover is up!

Spoiler:

I kinda want to see an Arabian Nights-themed Dragon Ball story now...

[ChaosLordBrandon]

People hardly even pay attention to DBM now. And these special chapters have only made it worse.

No wonder Salagir made that thing about Beerus. He is just mad because damn near everybody in the db community no longer cares about his manga. It's been years since any of the db you tubers both big and small have even mentioned his series once in there videos.

And I find it funny he has a problem with Beerus but made Broly as powerful as SSJ3 Vegito,Mary Sue Bra,Mary Sue Goku's mom and a very dull subplot about humans nobody cares about and bunch of other things that were to boring for me to list.

[rereboy]

Salagir has no problem with Beerus. He just used one humorous element about him in one minicomic. He did the same regarding Broly and other characters. And that has nothing to do with him being "mad" about anything, that's only in your head.

Also, people are free to "pay attention" to whatever they like. I fail to see the point in your glee in people paying less attention to DBM.

[Marco Polo]

People hardly even pay attention to DBM now. And these special chapters have only made it worse.

Speak for yourself.

[Skar]

People hardly even pay attention to DBM now. And these special chapters have only made it worse.

No wonder Salagir made that thing about Beerus. He is just mad because damn near everybody in the db community no longer cares about his manga. It's been years since any of the db you tubers both big and small have even mentioned his series once in there videos.

And I find it funny he has a problem with Beerus but made Broly as powerful as SSJ3 Vegito,Mary Sue Bra,Mary Sue Goku's mom and a very dull subplot about humans nobody cares about and bunch of other things that were to boring for me to list.

Okay so this joke about Beerus being responsible for everything has been around since BoG came out. Are you suggesting that if a fanfic writer makes the same joke then that must mean they're just mad? That would mean he decided to keep his anger bottled up and then randomly reveal it almost three years after the movie came out. That doesn't make a lot of sense. It was released in a filler mini-comic intended to stall for time.

Something you may not have noticed is that DBM is fanmade. Of course fans are going to pay more attention to the official continuation of the manga than they would fanfiction. I'm sure the same happened with Star Wars fanfics after the new trilogy was announced. It doesn't mean they're going to abandon them completely just that they may check them out less often. According to Alexa, DBM is still ranked in the top 20,000 sites in the world and interestingly almost 25% of the traffic comes from Japan. I'm not sure how many views that would translate to but it could be hundreds of thousands or more. As long as there are people who enjoy it then the author is going to continue.

[Tzigi]

People hardly even pay attention to DBM now. And these special chapters have only made it worse.

No wonder Salagir made that thing about Beerus. He is just mad because damn near everybody in the db community no longer cares about his manga. It's been years since any of the db you tubers both big and small have even mentioned his series once in there videos.

Now, that makes me wonder if I have grown too old for the internet. I have literally never ever watched "a you tuber" (I only use YT to quickly access music I have forgotten to copy from some external drives) so I've got no idea about them. Moreover Super has disappointed me immensely - and now that I think of it, my expectations were raised mostly due to the comparison with DBM. Actually the only official material I enjoy now is the Toyotaro manga which is brilliant and I just can't wait to see its tankobon version (and preferably a Polish edition - I have asked some folks at the Polish publishing house that published DB and they expressed a tentative interest). So yeah, essentially: speak for yourself. I do the same and my point of view is: DBM is leagues above the official material and I find that extremely sad (because there is so much potential in Super and it was just so wasted).

[Mewzard]

Now, that makes me wonder if I have grown too old for the internet. I have literally never ever watched "a you tuber" (I only use YT to quickly access music I have forgotten to copy from some external drives) so I've got no idea about them. Moreover Super has disappointed me immensely - and now that I think of it, my expectations were raised mostly due to the comparison with DBM. Actually the only official material I enjoy now is the Toyotaro manga which is brilliant and I just can't wait to see its tankobon version (and preferably a Polish edition - I have asked some folks at the Polish publishing house that published DB and they expressed a tentative interest). So yeah, essentially: speak for yourself. I do the same and my point of view is: DBM is leagues above the official material and I find that extremely sad (because there is so much potential in Super and it was just so wasted).

I disagree completely. Don't get me wrong, I generally like DBM (certain sections not withstanding), but it falls into a lot of trappings of fan material (especially when it comes to characters like Broli, where they just make him into something ridiculous in the way only a hardcore fanboy would), and some bits are not all that interesting.

Even beyond that, Just look at the assorted universes of Dragon Ball Multiverse when compared to Universe 6 and 7 in Super (which are literally as close as two universes can be in the Multiverse since they're twins, other Universes should be even more distinct).

The two twin universes are vastly different on a fundamental level to the point where entire races/planets/history vary massively. The Earth was destroyed by its own wars (so no human characters), the Saiyans are peacekeepers on their true homeworld where they long ago lost their tails, the characters we know and love aren't just pasted over with slightly different personalities, but we have new members of the races representing them, and in some cases, brand new races.

Whereas with Dragon Ball Multiverse (which is supposed to have nigh infinite universes, and they chose the most varied universes among them)...so many are "What if event A happened differently, so *insert character here* is now *insert concept here*."

Don't get me wrong, there are a few interesting ideas in DBM...but they're spread across more than a dozen universes. Meanwhile, I can't even imagine how different the other universes are to U6 and U7.

[rereboy]

it falls into a lot of trappings of fan material (especially when it comes to characters like Broli, where they just make him into something ridiculous in the way only a hardcore fanboy would), and some bits are not all that interesting.

Freeza trains for a few months, becomes almost as powerful as Beerus, who was way stronger than Vegetto.

Broly, who was almost as strong as Cell from the start, in an alternate universe, after decades of having his power rising, manages to be powerful enough to push Vegetto in a fight.

Honestly, which is really the more ridiculous scenario...?

Even beyond that, Just look at the assorted universes of Dragon Ball Multiverse when compared to Universe 6 and 7 in Super (which are literally as close as two universes can be in the Multiverse since they're twins, other Universes should be even more distinct).

That's the whole point of having a multiverse, we get alternate versions of situations and characters.

If the plan isn't to have that, then the new characters from another universe could simply be from somewhere distant in the universe, or some realm like Dabra is, and there would be no real need to actually have a multiverse.

For example, the new characters from universe 6 in Super? There's hardly any need for them to be from another universe at all... Frost could just another member of freeza's race that was far away in the universe, the saiyan could be a descendant from the many saiyans that were sent as children to other planets, and the others could just be random strong folk from the universe... To set up the fight all we would need would be Champa saying that he trained a few guys with the idea of challenging Beerus into a battle of pupils.

As you can see, hardly any reason to have a multiverse if alternate versions aren't the point.

DBM correctly understands that the main point of a multiverse is the alternate versions, while still adding original stuff like Helior and XXI.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

Salagir has no problem with Beerus. He just used one humorous element about him in one minicomic. He did the same regarding Broly and other characters. And that has nothing to do with him being "mad" about anything, that's only in your head.

Also, people are free to "pay attention" to whatever they like. I fail to see the point in your glee in people paying less attention to DBM.

You can not me tell that Salagir does not hate Beerus when we he made that minicomic for him. And it was very childish to do that to a very good character.

[rereboy]

Salagir has no problem with Beerus. He just used one humorous element about him in one minicomic. He did the same regarding Broly and other characters. And that has nothing to do with him being "mad" about anything, that's only in your head.

Also, people are free to "pay attention" to whatever they like. I fail to see the point in your glee in people paying less attention to DBM.

You can not me tell that Salagir does not hate Beerus when we he made that minicomic for him. And it was very childish to do that to a very good character.

Then I guess Salagir hates Broly too:



Or.. You just don't know what you are talking about...

[Mewzard]

Freeza trains for a few months, becomes almost as powerful as Beerus, who was way stronger than Vegetto.

Broly, who was almost as strong as Cell from the start, in an alternate universe, after decades of having his power rising, manages to be powerful enough to push Vegetto in a fight.

Honestly, which is really the more ridiculous scenario...?

That's the whole point of having a multiverse, we get alternate versions of situations and characters.

If the plan isn't to have that, then the new characters from another universe could simply be from somewhere distant in the universe, or some realm like Dabra is, and there would be no real need to actually have a multiverse.

For example, the new characters from universe 6 in Super? There's hardly any need for them to be from another universe at all... Frost could just another member of freeza's race that was far away in the universe, the saiyan could be a descendant from the many saiyans that were sent as children to other planets, and the others could just be random strong folk from the universe... To set up the fight all we would need would be Champa saying that he trained a few guys with the idea of challenging Beerus into a battle of pupils.

As you can see, hardly any reason to have a multiverse if alternate versions aren't the point.

DBM correctly understands that the main point of a multiverse is the alternate versions, while still adding original stuff like Helior and XXI.

Broli was quite literally made invincible and could only be stopped by rendering him unconscious via shock. Broli mid battle with Vegetto literally kept jumping in power at a massive scale to force SSJ3, when he wasn't even close to that before the battle. He got turned into some sort of immortal Hulk.

That's far worse than what we got with Freeza (who at least is far more believable to grow like that, given his comments *on top of almost always floating around in his chair and having his minions do his work* seemed to imply he almost never did any fighting and was that powerful; massive untapped potential for someone starting off that strong isn't that surprising).

Multiverses don't have to be slight variations on a concept. While I don't mind using that for some, I'm far more interested in universes that differ by a decent amount. A seemingly benevolent member of Freeza's race running things? Saiyans as the protectors of the Universe rather than space pirates? The oh-so-important Earth destroyed off screen by petty fighting? It's almost some sort of opposite universe, and I find it interesting to learn more about it.

[Noah]

If these special chapters weren't made, then there'd simply be a long break between chapters. All these chapters are are intermissions while Asura takes time off from drawing. We're lucky we even get anything at all.

I don't have a problem with that, look at TFS: We wait roughly 2 or 3 months for a new episode in their DBZ Parody, and most people don't complain, since they always keep with the good quality. I wouldn't bother in wait a month for new pages of the main story.

People hardly even pay attention to DBM now. And these special chapters have only made it worse.

Speak for yourself.

Actually he got a good point, DBM nowadays is overshadowed by DBS (anime/manga), since 2013: I don't see people with same amount of interest in this than the new upcoming stories. DBM is stuck in the past, with Goku with SSJ3 as his peak, there always will be comparisons, I don't know if Salagir plans to introduce new forms or something, but I'm hoping for more innovation in this fan manga.