Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[Hellspawn28]

DBM is stuck in the past, with Goku with SSJ3 as his peak, there always will be comparisons, I don't know if Salagir plans to introduce new forms or something, but I'm hoping for more innovation in this fan manga.

That's why I feel like DBM should have ended in 2012 or maybe 2013. It's 2016 and the main story is not even over. We are back in the main story after over a month of special chapters. Salagir should have made DBM into a monthly story since 2008 seeing that DBM is known to take forever to the writing to kick off.

[rereboy]

Some fans not having the patience to wait the required time for the pages to be drawn is not a good justification to end DBM prematurely.

[Fionordequester]

Some fans not having the patience to wait the required time for the pages to be drawn is not a good justification to end DBM prematurely.

I'll agree to that. Besides, at least this way, we can count on stuff to read even after several years pass.

[testing223]

DBM is stuck in the past, with Goku with SSJ3 as his peak, there always will be comparisons, I don't know if Salagir plans to introduce new forms or something, but I'm hoping for more innovation in this fan manga.

That's why I feel like DBM should have ended in 2012 or maybe 2013. It's 2016 and the main story is not even over. We are back in the main story after over a month of special chapters. Salagir should have made DBM into a monthly story since 2008 seeing that DBM is known to take forever to the writing to kick off.

I disagree with this.

Having nothing to read at all would not be better.

[dbgtFO]

DBM is stuck in the past, with Goku with SSJ3 as his peak, there always will be comparisons, I don't know if Salagir plans to introduce new forms or something, but I'm hoping for more innovation in this fan manga.

I remember from all those years ago, that the novelization had hinted at Vegeta possibly going in the direction of Ultimate Gohan, but who knows, if that is what they are going to go with now.

[saiyanvegetable]

DBM is stuck in the past, with Goku with SSJ3 as his peak, there always will be comparisons, I don't know if Salagir plans to introduce new forms or something, but I'm hoping for more innovation in this fan manga.

That's why I feel like DBM should have ended in 2012 or maybe 2013. It's 2016 and the main story is not even over. We are back in the main story after over a month of special chapters. Salagir should have made DBM into a monthly story since 2008 seeing that DBM is known to take forever to the writing to kick off.

Thats total bullshit. DBM is not "stuck in the past", it's making use of the concepts introduced into the series and expanding on them. Everything Super isn't. I don't care about new forms. That's not innovation, and its such a youtube comment thing to say. DBM has given us an interesting story that is more faithful to the source material and better executed than anything TOEI has given us so far. I wish I can go back in time, grab the the animators back right when they finished DBZ, and animated THIS instead of super.

The only thing holding DMB back is the pacing, and that's because it's a one page every few days format (let alone specials for a month). That's just what happens when you don't have a budget but you actually care about the material you're writing/drawing.

[coola]

[ZombieVito]

Is that Old Snake there?

[rereboy]

And Korra. And the alien from alien.

[fexus]

Thats total bullshit. DBM is not "stuck in the past", it's making use of the concepts introduced into the series and expanding on them. Everything Super isn't. I don't care about new forms. That's not innovation, and its such a youtube comment thing to say. DBM has given us an interesting story that is more faithful to the source material and better executed than anything TOEI has given us so far. I wish I can go back in time, grab the the animators back right when they finished DBZ, and animated THIS instead of super.

The only thing holding DMB back is the pacing, and that's because it's a one page every few days format (let alone specials for a month). That's just what happens when you don't have a budget but you actually care about the material you're writing/drawing.

And that's total bullshit. What DBM had done as of now is just continuing this inane power wanking of the characters they like. They didn't try to really expand, they just try to put their own concept of what they think would happen and did happen. That isn't expanding. The story is honestly boring. Super at least introduce something new and the characters and story seems to be honestly more thought out as well, not that it would be a surprise as that is the official one. Even the thought of one of those side stories is canon or any of this fanfiction is canon just disturb me to no end.

The only thing that is holding this back is the animation. Fix that and the series would receive 50% less negative comment as it does right now.

[rereboy]

From the point of view of taking what existed and doing stuff with it, yes, DBM expands Dragon Ball.

While other fan mangas try to continue Dragon Ball by introducing things that, most of time, aren't that great, DBM tries to create an entertaining manga mainly with what already existed.

In short, DBM doesn't really try to continue Dragon Ball, it's more of a celebration of Dragon Ball than a continuation.

Maybe you don't feel that this is an advantage, but others do.

Personally, as long as it's good, being either a continuation or a celebration is fine with me, but I've noticed that the fan manga / fan fictions that I've enjoyed the most tend to be more of a celebration than a continuation. "Who wants to be a Superhero", which is probably the best Dragon Ball fan manga is also more of a celebration of Dragon Ball than a continuation.

[apex_pretador]

yay! the most awesome character is back on DBM.

He could be stronger than SS3 vegetto, & let's see what gotenks has up his sleeve (which buu put in there lol)

[xJeffx]

I just hope Gotenks takes this fight seriously or else he'll lose instantly.

[saiyanvegetable]

Thats total bullshit. DBM is not "stuck in the past", it's making use of the concepts introduced into the series and expanding on them. Everything Super isn't. I don't care about new forms. That's not innovation, and its such a youtube comment thing to say. DBM has given us an interesting story that is more faithful to the source material and better executed than anything TOEI has given us so far. I wish I can go back in time, grab the the animators back right when they finished DBZ, and animated THIS instead of super.

The only thing holding DMB back is the pacing, and that's because it's a one page every few days format (let alone specials for a month). That's just what happens when you don't have a budget but you actually care about the material you're writing/drawing.

And that's total bullshit. What DBM had done as of now is just continuing this inane power wanking of the characters they like. They didn't try to really expand, they just try to put their own concept of what they think would happen and did happen. That isn't expanding. The story is honestly boring. Super at least introduce something new and the characters and story seems to be honestly more thought out as well, not that it would be a surprise as that is the official one. Even the thought of one of those side stories is canon or any of this fanfiction is canon just disturb me to no end.

The only thing that is holding this back is the animation. Fix that and the series would receive 50% less negative comment as it does right now.

How can you defend Super and then attack DBM for "fan wanking characters they like?" Super gave Goku and Vegeta a bullshit transformation that has literally ZERO foothold in the mythos. It doesn't expand on anything.

DMB took the characters and faithfully fleshed them out in a multiversal tournament. Super hasn't had a goddamn thing worth writing about except maybe Jaco. Everything else is uninspired, hollow bullshit. Super's characters are hollow caricatures that rely on slapstick comedy and old character tropes in order to convey some sort of interaction. DBM's character interactions are much more faithful to the source material. And as far as Broly and Vegito go - sure, they're fan favorites. And that was a hell of a fight, which was the purpose. But are they the focus of the story? No.

[Gyt Kaliba]

You know, at this point I'm going to assume the character cameos in the crowds aren't just Easter eggs, but are actually the characters they appear to be, chilling out and watching the tournament. It makes zero sense, but it amuses me greatly.

[ShadowBardock89]

You know, at this point I'm going to assume the character cameos in the crowds aren't just Easter eggs, but are actually the characters they appear to be, chilling out and watching the tournament. It makes zero sense, but it amuses me greatly.

Since this is a big "What-If," wouldn't be safe they come from a timeline established in DBM?

[fexus]

How can you defend Super and then attack DBM for "fan wanking characters they like?" Super gave Goku and Vegeta a bullshit transformation that has literally ZERO foothold in the mythos. It doesn't expand on anything.

DMB took the characters and faithfully fleshed them out in a multiversal tournament. Super hasn't had a goddamn thing worth writing about except maybe Jaco. Everything else is uninspired, hollow bullshit. Super's characters are hollow caricatures that rely on slapstick comedy and old character tropes in order to convey some sort of interaction. DBM's character interactions are much more faithful to the source material. And as far as Broly and Vegito go - sure, they're fan favorites. And that was a hell of a fight, which was the purpose. But are they the focus of the story? No.

What? SSJ God has a mythos. SSJB is the result of training with a God that's the most powerful being in the current Universe. It expanded a lot on what happened and show that the universe has more to offer than just the current cast of idiots. Hell we even got Super Dragon Balls which keep further expanding towards what the Dragon Balls really is. What we got from DBM is pure fanwanking. Vegetto the strongest. Brolly keep getting strong infinitely. Vegetto picking Bulma but not Chichi. Ultimate Buu.
Super characters show that they are more than just beings of pure power. Goku and Vegeta talking about their wife. Gohan decided to train again. Kuririn became a cop after talking to Goku. Freeza still fixated about revenge. And Beerus. The best character in Super as of now. The not quite super powerful villain that's not just I want to kill them all. The current cast is more then hollow caricatures that rely on slapstick comedy and old character tropes in order to convey some sort of interaction.

[apex_pretador]

here we go - MYSTIC gotenks vs buu

[Tzigi]

How can you defend Super and then attack DBM for "fan wanking characters they like?" Super gave Goku and Vegeta a bullshit transformation that has literally ZERO foothold in the mythos. It doesn't expand on anything.

DMB took the characters and faithfully fleshed them out in a multiversal tournament. Super hasn't had a goddamn thing worth writing about except maybe Jaco. Everything else is uninspired, hollow bullshit. Super's characters are hollow caricatures that rely on slapstick comedy and old character tropes in order to convey some sort of interaction. DBM's character interactions are much more faithful to the source material. And as far as Broly and Vegito go - sure, they're fan favorites. And that was a hell of a fight, which was the purpose. But are they the focus of the story? No.

What? SSJ God has a mythos. SSJB is the result of training with a God that's the most powerful being in the current Universe. It expanded a lot on what happened and show that the universe has more to offer than just the current cast of idiots. Hell we even got Super Dragon Balls which keep further expanding towards what the Dragon Balls really is. What we got from DBM is pure fanwanking. Vegetto the strongest. Brolly keep getting strong infinitely. Vegetto picking Bulma but not Chichi. Ultimate Buu.
Super characters show that they are more than just beings of pure power. Goku and Vegeta talking about their wife. Gohan decided to train again. Kuririn became a cop after talking to Goku. Freeza still fixated about revenge. And Beerus. The best character in Super as of now. The not quite super powerful villain that's not just I want to kill them all. The current cast is more then hollow caricatures that rely on slapstick comedy and old character tropes in order to convey some sort of interaction.

Our positions on it are pretty much polar opposites. Everything you count as good towards Super, I see as its horrible flaws. Every criticism you have towards DBM, I see as its great virtue. Also are you familiar with Sanderson's laws? If not, here they are. I think that the third one is especially relevant to our discussion:

Expand what you already have before you add something new.

That is what I love about DBM. It does what I always wanted to see done to the DB world - it elaborates instead of simply adding new elements.

[fexus]

Expand what you already have before you add something new.

That is what I love about DBM. It does what I always wanted to see done to the DB world - it elaborates instead of simply adding new elements.

And this is where you are wrong. DBM has never and I mean never expanded towards what already is there. It just made a lot of what if scenarios on what would happen if something didn't go the way that the original timeline did. What it did bring that you can count as new was a race that can travel the alternate timeline universe and the tech warriors. As of now they never did explain what is already there. I feel like I'm repeating myself but I'll say it again, what DBM did was make a lot of what if timelines and throw them in a fight. It didn't expand to what is already there, they are just reusing the same elements that are already there and try to put their twist on it. It isn't expanding when almost everything in DBM can be known through the original DB. Unless we see the fable Vegeta got a new transformation scene, nothing is exactly new here.