"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Puto]

If they debut a new white-haired form, then I absolutely expect that to be a transformation for Black, rather than the good guys.

[ArchedThunder]

If they debut a new white-haired form, then I absolutely expect that to be a transformation for Black, rather than the good guys.

And assuming it's not a form exclusive to an evil Saiyan then it could be a new goal for Goku and Vegeta going forward, assuming they beat him without going White, for instance with something like fusion or a Genki Dama.

[DBS916]

If they debut a new white-haired form, then I absolutely expect that to be a transformation for Black, rather than the good guys.

And assuming it's not a form exclusive to an evil Saiyan then it could be a new goal for Goku and Vegeta going forward, assuming they beat him without going White, for instance with something like fusion or a Genki Dama.

I can imagine spirit bomb being the attack that will eventually defeat Black. Like when Goku used kaio-ken against Hit, Goku will have to use one of his most powerful abilities if he wants to terminate Black like Kid Buu.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

If they debut a new white-haired form, then I absolutely expect that to be a transformation for Black, rather than the good guys.

And assuming it's not a form exclusive to an evil Saiyan then it could be a new goal for Goku and Vegeta going forward, assuming they beat him without going White, for instance with something like fusion or a Genki Dama.

Isn't it implied Black isn't a Saiyan though? If Black does transform (I am skeptical) then it would be whatever he is exclusive.

[dblack]

I'm interested to see why we haven't seen any images of Black going SSJ. He clearly has Goku's skills as shown by instant transmission. I hope for a new transformation, evil-exclusive but I highly doubt it. Seems to me his power is more magic-based, like someone took a base God Goku and powered him up a la Majin-style.

[ArchedThunder]

I'm interested to see why we haven't seen any images of Black going SSJ. He clearly has Goku's skills as shown by instant transmission. I hope for a new transformation, evil-exclusive but I highly doubt it. Seems to me his power is more magic-based, like someone took a base God Goku and powered him up a la Majin-style.

If he does have an evil exclusive transformation and he is in fact a Saiyan (or at least partly) I bet that shortly after the arc ends Heroes gives the transformation to Broly.

[sayian_nation_]

Why does Black tell Trunks that he's the last warrior of the Saiyan race if Black is supposedly a Saiyan himself?

[Anime Kitten]

Why does Black tell Trunks that he's the last warrior of the Saiyan race if Black is supposedly a Saiyan himself?

Where was it said that he's a Saiyan? (Sorry, I haven't watched EP49 yet.)

[Noah]

I was rewatching Zarbon (Post Transformation) vs. Vegeta, and wow... I didn't remember how brutal was their first fight, hope Black gives Goku the same treatment as Zarbon gave with Vegeta

[Anime Kitten]

I was rewatching Zarbon (Post Transformation) vs. Vegeta, and wow... I didn't remember how brutal was their first fight, hope Black gives Goku the same treatment as Zarbon gave with Vegeta

Better yet, I hope Black does what Vegeta did to Goku near the end of the Saiyan Saga.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Also with the whole identity revealing episode that is coming up makes me very doubtful he is actually a Saiyan.

[Anime Kitten]

Also with the whole identity revealing episode that is coming up makes me very doubtful he is actually a Saiyan.

He called Trunks a "Saiyan" in EP47. I thought that was evidence enough that he's not one. (Although if he has a Super Saiyan form, then I am going to say Super Earthlings/Humans can exist. Not saying he is one)

[ryou766]

If they debut a new white-haired form, then I absolutely expect that to be a transformation for Black, rather than the good guys.

And assuming it's not a form exclusive to an evil Saiyan then it could be a new goal for Goku and Vegeta going forward, assuming they beat him without going White, for instance with something like fusion or a Genki Dama.

I'd rather have SSJW be only exclusive for Black. No new forms for Goku and Vegeta.

[Grimlock]

Super Saiyan White must be a "negative version" of the Super Saiyan. It's curious because Mira already has it. I agree it should be exclusive to Goku Black (and Mira), if Goku Black is a Saiyan, that is.

[ArchedThunder]

Either way, if Goku Black is a Saiyan and has an exclusive Super Saiyan form that is evil there is no way Heroes doesn't end up giving it to Broly.

[sayian_nation_]

Why does Black tell Trunks that he's the last warrior of the Saiyan race if Black is supposedly a Saiyan himself?

Where was it said that he's a Saiyan? (Sorry, I haven't watched EP49 yet.)

He just states "what a sad ending for a proud Warrior race". He said it like Trunks was the last Saiyan, but then what the hell is Black Goku? Is he like an evil shape shifting Kaioshin? I only say it because he has that earring...so many questions!

[sintzu]

Either way, if Goku Black is a Saiyan and has an exclusive Super Saiyan form that is evil there is no way Heroes doesn't end up giving it to Broly.

Time breaker Bardock & time breaker Vegeta would probably get it as well.

[ekrolo2]

Why's this combining of SSWhite and Black coming from? Is it just for irony sake or?

[ryou766]

Why's this combining of SSWhite and Black coming from? Is it just for irony sake or?

Several theories and fan arts.

[Grimlock]

No, Toriyama said he would save Super Saiyan White for another occasion or something like that.