Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[FortuneSSJ]

-Tied with One Piece-
I told you it wasn't impossible to beat One Piece. It's just a matter of time.

[Sodhi]

I dont think we would be able to beat one piece, unless some people just quit watching TV after Super for some reason. Its highly unlikely that people would just tune in for Super and leave One piece alone because its so popular and airs right after DBS.

[dbgtFO]

Yes!
I knew it. It is only a matter of time before DB takes back its rightful place above One Piece.
My faith in the viewing audience is restored!

[Mazingerdestro]

Well I do not consider it a win since op's zoo Arc is literally the worse thing Oda has ever produced. I can see op going 7-8 next week. However, Jesus even Trunks' new form isn't enough to get the series to the top.....seriously japan......

But yeah the copycat can't be over dbs forever

[thegamer23]

It's difficult to predict those ratings really.

We expect them to raise even further with Episode 63 wich looks awesome, but it's not granted.

[Alruneia]

We tied. Nice.
The best way to predict ratings is to look at how awesome the episode before was. We talked about Episode 61 a lot because of how good it was. It's not unlikely that the same happened in Japan, which made more people tune in to Episode 62. Because of the way Episode 62 slowed down a bit, we should expect that some people were "turned off", so there'll be a lower rating for Episode 63. But if the action is consistent in 63, 64 and 65, the ratings will probably reflect that.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Guys, it didn't beat One Piece, they had the same rating share. The same amount of people tuned in for both.

[HeroR]

We tied. Nice.
The best way to predict ratings is to look at how awesome the episode before was. We talked about Episode 61 a lot because of how good it was. It's not unlikely that the same happened in Japan, which made more people tune in to Episode 62. Because of the way Episode 62 slowed down a bit, we should expect that some people were "turned off", so there'll be a lower rating for Episode 63. But if the action is consistent in 63, 64 and 65, the ratings will probably reflect that.

Doesn't work that way. We have seen several times a great episode have okay ratings like Episode 39, which was the Kaio-Ken reveal, got great ratings, but the next episode suffered a drop.

[Alruneia]

Doesn't work that way.

I never said it was a 100 % accurate way to do it, and your counterexample doesn't prove that it's 0 % accurate either.

Let me show you why I came up with the theory.

Episode 57 had 6.8, a pretty great rating. However, the battle in the future ends and Goku and co. retreat to the present at the end of the episode.
Episode 58 only saw a minor decrease to 6.4, however. Even though Episode 58 was a relatively boring exposition episode in the present, it retained a good rating because of the amount of action Episode 57 had. If the previous episode's action did not matter, this episode's rating would be lower. However, the fact that it was an exposition episode is reflected in Episode 59's rating.
Episode 59 saw another decrease, down to 5.9. This episode was also exposition-heavy and action-lacking, even though it had the "Hakai" moment for Beerus, and that, in turn, affected Episode 60's rating.
Episode 60 got as (relatively) little as 5.0, even though Goku and co. return to the future and the action starts up again in the second half of the episode. However, the fact that they do return to the future, and that the action starts up again at the end, affects Episode 61's rating.
Episode 61 got a 6.0 because viewers knew that the action had started up again due to the end of Episode 60. The action remained through the entire episode, even ending with Trunks powering up into some odd form. This affected Episode 62's rating positively.
Episode 62 got a 6.2 because of 61's action, even though they left for the present again early in the episode, slowing the arc down once more. If the previous episode's action didn't matter to the episode's rating, Episode 62 would not have 6.2, but be below 6 instead.

The way I'm able to point to action (which I in the first post called "awesome", unprofessionally enough) in the previous episode and explain rating increases and decreases based on it is why I came up with the theory. Of course, it's far from a perfect theory, but I haven't seen a different theory that "outpredicts" this one yet. Don't be too surprised if there's a decrease in ratings from Episode 62 to Episode 63.

[Avery]

Lol. Trunks hype got us to tie with OP. Well, not really. This episode's rating isn't something special and it looks like it only happened because there's probably something wrong with One Piece. What happened? 6.2 is too low for OP.

[FortuneSSJ]

This episode's rating isn't something special and it looks like it only happened because there's probably something wrong with One Piece. What happened? 6.2 is too low for OP.

One Piece rankings have been declining for some time now.
Dressrosa burnt out, probably?! You really have to love One Piece, if you don't get burnt out watching that arc in the anime.

The pacing is terrible and a good competition for Goku vs Freeza on Namek.
Oda can be also be blamed. I like Dressrosa arc premise but personally I think he introduced way too many characters, which may turn out an enjoyable plot in a total mess.

[LightBing]

Wow! Dragon Ball actually tied with One Piece, that's insane.
I never thought that could happen. Even with a filler arc in One Piece(not sure if that's the case here).

[FortuneSSJ]

Even with a filler arc in One Piece(not sure if that's the case here).

Zou arc is canon.

[Mazingerdestro]

Even with a filler arc in One Piece(not sure if that's the case here).

Zou arc is canon.

Well consider how bad it is and how it serves too little to the plot, I can understand why people consider it filler

[Lord Beerus]

Holy smokes! We tied with One Piece! Way it go, Super! That's bloody awesome!

But that has to be lowest rated episode of One Piece I've ever seen. Is the Zou arc just not clicking with the TV audience? As for Super though, who knows what could happen next week. We could surpass One Piece. That would be one hell of an achievement.

[Bullza]

That is surprising but the bigger surprise to me is just how rapidly One Piece seems to be declining. It wasn't long ago when I said it was the first time I'd seen it below an 8.0 them a 7.0 and now it's almost below a 6.0.

I'm curious to see what the next volume sales are for One Piece because it does look like it's losing popularity.

[LightBing]

Even with a filler arc in One Piece(not sure if that's the case here).

Zou arc is canon.

So it's at Zou already, I thought it might still be at a post-Dressrosa filler arc because of the ratings. I stopped watching the anime, mid-Dressrosa. Surprised at the ratings of Zou, the arc was pretty decent in the manga, even if it was a transitional arc.
Hum, I wonder if people are losing patience with One Piece, the New World material has been hit or miss.

[buutenks]

Think, ep 63 will get a higher rating, since they saw in the preview that it will be a action packed ep, so proly more will tune in to watch.

While, ep 62, allot tuned in to simply see what happened to Trunks.

As for one piece, i stopped watching one piece after the skypea arc ended. The introduction of haki pretty much killed one piece for me. I really enjoyed how Croco and Enel were defeated by exploting their weaknesses, instead of oh look my power level if bigger than yours so i can hurt you regardless.

[kinisking]

That is surprising but the bigger surprise to me is just how rapidly One Piece seems to be declining. It wasn't long ago when I said it was the first time I'd seen it below an 8.0 them a 7.0 and now it's almost below a 6.0.

I'm curious to see what the next volume sales are for One Piece because it does look like it's losing popularity.

Mayne supers the cause? Idk, but I don't think it's going to be losing a lot of popularity

[Bigivel]

This episode's rating isn't something special and it looks like it only happened because there's probably something wrong with One Piece. What happened? 6.2 is too low for OP.

One Piece rankings have been declining for some time now.
Dressrosa burnt out, probably?! You really have to love One Piece, if you don't get burnt out watching that arc in the anime.

The pacing is terrible and a good competition for Goku vs Freeza on Namek.
Oda can be also be blamed. I like Dressrosa arc premise but personally I think he introduced way too many characters, which may turn out an enjoyable plot in a total mess.

Dressrosa ended 4.5 moths ago zou already is 10 episodes in and there was a 4 episode filler arc right before. Calling it just Dressrossa burnout right now seems quite off.