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Try "I'm training to kill your oldest friend.... AGAIN!"Fionordequester wrote:Hey, hey, let's be FAIR here; the guy already moved on from the "mass murdering" part by that point. He was only a psychopath, with a dash of "I'll sometimes kill people I don't like", that's all!ekrolo2 wrote:Although, I don't hear anyone point out the fact Bulma sleeps with a mass murdering psychopath way, way, way before he gets to anything approaching redemptions
Scarz wrote:
Unfortunately, the rest of this entire thread will be the moral discussion of Vegetto garbing Bra's shirt. I'm just waiting for someone to scream implications of incest to fall further down this idiotic rabbit hole over something so harmless.
I'm down for that; it's funny how Ginyu's not even caring to keep up appearances anymore. It's funny seeing the contrast from how he was in Cold's body to how he is in Bra's.FoolsGil wrote:You know things have gone awry when Scarz is less chipper. Maybe we should move on to the hilarity of Ginyu waving hi, or bye, depending on what Vegetto did with his hands.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Yes.Marco Polo wrote:Did he really have to grab his own daughter by the crop top?
TonyTheTiger wrote:Anyone remember THE PACT?
TonyTheTiger wrote:The Pact still stands, Salagir!
THE PACT STILL STANDS!Salagir2 wrote:Lolomegalucas wrote:Salagir, this seems to be the pact! xDTonyTheTiger wrote:I'm still waiting for Bra to lose her shirt. Come on, Salagir! Write it in, even if it's for just one panel!
And the pact still stands! If Bra appears topless in DBM we all change our avatars to the relevant panel(s) for one month.
We'll see
Vegeta hated everyone even after Trunks was born though. Just some people he hates less than othersekrolo2 wrote:Try "I'm training to kill your oldest friend.... AGAIN!"Fionordequester wrote:Hey, hey, let's be FAIR here; the guy already moved on from the "mass murdering" part by that point. He was only a psychopath, with a dash of "I'll sometimes kill people I don't like", that's all!ekrolo2 wrote:Although, I don't hear anyone point out the fact Bulma sleeps with a mass murdering psychopath way, way, way before he gets to anything approaching redemptions
Oh don't get me wrong, he was a psychopath...just not a MASS MURDERING psychopath! Not when he met Bulma!Dbzfan94 wrote:Vegeta hated everyone even after Trunks was born though. Just some people he hates less than others
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Not like he's the only one. Funny thing is that the only person he killed on his first visit to Earth was Nappa. Kinda ironic really.Fionordequester wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, he was a psychopath...just not a MASS MURDERING psychopath! Not when he met Bulma!Dbzfan94 wrote:Vegeta hated everyone even after Trunks was born though. Just some people he hates less than others
Yeah, it's like reading the DBM comment section!!Scarz wrote: Unfortunately, the rest of this entire thread will be the moral discussion of Vegetto garbing Bra's shirt. I'm just waiting for someone to scream implications of incest to fall further down this idiotic rabbit hole over something so harmless.
Still he was indirectly yet directly responsible for everyone's deathsBlazingBarrrager wrote:Not like he's the only one. Funny thing is that the only person he killed on his first visit to Earth was Nappa. Kinda ironic really.Fionordequester wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, he was a psychopath...just not a MASS MURDERING psychopath! Not when he met Bulma!Dbzfan94 wrote:Vegeta hated everyone even after Trunks was born though. Just some people he hates less than others
What makes you think Vegeta is a psychopath? Just because he enjoyed kill people?ekrolo2 wrote:Although, I don't hear anyone point out the fact Bulma sleeps with a mass murdering psychopath way, way, way before he gets to anything approaching redemptions
That's general U7 (Super) Saiyan behavior.Noah wrote:What makes you think Vegeta is a psychopath? Just because he enjoyed kill people?ekrolo2 wrote:Although, I don't hear anyone point out the fact Bulma sleeps with a mass murdering psychopath way, way, way before he gets to anything approaching redemptions
Yep, I thought psychopaths share other characteristics than just being a killersBlazingBarrrager wrote:That's general U7 (Super) Saiyan behavior.
That's a pretty big indicator on someone being a psychopathNoah wrote:What makes you think Vegeta is a psychopath? Just because he enjoyed kill people?ekrolo2 wrote:Although, I don't hear anyone point out the fact Bulma sleeps with a mass murdering psychopath way, way, way before he gets to anything approaching redemptions
It is a red flag, true...but most psychopaths are nonviolent. Only a small percentage of them choose to start doing Ted Bundy nonsense. So psychopathy actually doesn't have much to do with how violent a person becomes. Rather, you'd generally need some of the below criteria instead...Dbzfan94 wrote:That's a pretty big indicator on someone being a psychopath
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
All qualities Vegeta has as well lolFionordequester wrote:It is a red flag, true...but most psychopaths are nonviolent. Only a small percentage of them choose to start doing Ted Bundy nonsense. So psychopathy actually doesn't have much to do with how violent a person becomes. Rather, you'd generally need some of the below criteria instead...Dbzfan94 wrote:That's a pretty big indicator on someone being a psychopath
1) Sadism (which DBZ villains have in spades)
2) A belief that dominating others is proof of your masculinity (which the Saiyans had in spades)
3) Delusions of grandeur (otherwise, there's always that fear that your prey will hit back)
4) An inability/unwillingness to control negative emotions (Freeza casually killing his men over the slightest failures is a good example)
5) A belief that violence will help you to control the people around you (for example, if you're a mob boss)
Indeed! I'm just saying, psychopath doesn't automatically mean "criminal". Zamasu, for example, actually DIDN'T start out as a psychopath (or at least, not in his early appearances). He seems legitimately ashamed for killing that Barbarian, and he's legitimately panicked when Black kills Gowasu. Unfortunately, he DOES have most of those five qualities I listed below, and also happened to be a malignant narcissist on top of all that. Hence, the guy loses his fricken mind as the arc goes on.Dbzfan94 wrote:All qualities Vegeta has as well lol
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Vegeta first met Bulma on Namek, soon after he had murdered an entire Namekian village, I believe.Fionordequester wrote:Oh don't get me wrong, he was a psychopath...just not a MASS MURDERING psychopath! Not when he met Bulma!Dbzfan94 wrote:Vegeta hated everyone even after Trunks was born though. Just some people he hates less than others
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
Semantics; him "meeting her for the first time" lasted for like, five seconds. They were busy trying to get ready for the Ginyu Force, so that was all very rushed. Bulma and him didn't get the chance to really interact till after they were already on Earth.Kamiccolo9 wrote: Vegeta first met Bulma on Namek, soon after he had murdered an entire Namekian village, I believe.
Now, your definition of "mass" murderer may be somewhat different than mine....but I feel that wiping out an entire village qualifies him for the label.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Regardless, he was still a mass-murderer the first time they interacted. The one's he killed weren't even brought back. I believe this was even brought up while they were making the wishes, so Bulma would have known.Fionordequester wrote:Semantics; him "meeting her for the first time" lasted for like, five seconds. They were busy trying to get ready for the Ginyu Force, so that was all very rushed. Bulma and him didn't get the chance to really interact till after they were already on Earth.Kamiccolo9 wrote: Vegeta first met Bulma on Namek, soon after he had murdered an entire Namekian village, I believe.
Now, your definition of "mass" murderer may be somewhat different than mine....but I feel that wiping out an entire village qualifies him for the label.
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
