ekrolo2 wrote:Vegetto did refer to himself as "Super Vegetto" when he first transformed and as "Vegetto Blue" in Super.
Yeah but canon Vegetto still sees himself as just Vegeta and Goku's fusion, he even says that both against Boo and Zamasu.
Multiverse Vegetto sees himself as his own being.
Which seems reasonable since he's been around for a long time by now whereas the other Vegetto's we see don't last long enough to really form their own identity that goes beyond "I'm a combination of Goku and Vegeta".
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
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Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:Which seems reasonable since he's been around for a long time by now whereas the other Vegetto's we see don't last long enough to really form their own identity that goes beyond "I'm a combination of Goku and Vegeta".
Yeah, but that's why I said that canon Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes sense and is normal behavior. Multiverse Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes him look like an egomaniac (which isn't out-of-character, mind you, I was just noting it).
Also, we're all just waiting for Ginyu to start posing right?
ekrolo2 wrote:Which seems reasonable since he's been around for a long time by now whereas the other Vegetto's we see don't last long enough to really form their own identity that goes beyond "I'm a combination of Goku and Vegeta".
Yeah, but that's why I said that canon Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes sense and is normal behavior. Multiverse Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes him look like an egomaniac (which isn't out-of-character, mind you, I was just noting it).
Also, we're all just waiting for Ginyu to start posing right?
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Slangh wrote:Apparently Ginyu knows how to turn Super Saiyan. Must be easier than using Kaioken.
Ginyu over the course of the series went from 2nd to 6th form as King Kold. You could argue it's a different body, but still if he's improved his ki control to do what he did previously, basic SSJ shouldn't be a problem.
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Slangh wrote:Apparently Ginyu knows how to turn Super Saiyan. Must be easier than using Kaioken.
Ginyu over the course of the series went from 2nd to 6th form as King Kold. You could argue it's a different body, but still if he's improved his ki control to do what he did previously, basic SSJ shouldn't be a problem.
Transforming into a Super Saiyan also has an emotional aspect that makes it different from other transformations. Maybe this aspect was made negligible after Goten and Trunks transformed. Still it makes more sense if Ginyu needs a bit more time to get to know a new body (especially that of another species), because he did need it when changing to Goku's body. Aside from not knowing how to use the Kaioken, his base power was lowered too, enough for Gohan and Krillin to beat him. If Ginyu somehow became more adept at changing bodies I'd like to know how. Maybe Zen Buu gave him knowledge about Saiyans, too.
That shot of Ginyu-Bra as a Super Saiyan looks really fucking cool. The hair looks amazing.It feels weird thinking anything else, since that's technically Ginyu lol.
ekrolo2 wrote:Which seems reasonable since he's been around for a long time by now whereas the other Vegetto's we see don't last long enough to really form their own identity that goes beyond "I'm a combination of Goku and Vegeta".
Yeah, but that's why I said that canon Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes sense and is normal behavior. Multiverse Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes him look like an egomaniac (which isn't out-of-character, mind you, I was just noting it).
Also, we're all just waiting for Ginyu to start posing right?
Scarz? Scarz we need you for something really quick!
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Seriously, they need to replace the English translator. Preferably with someone who can actually speak English in a manner more advanced than putting the French text into Google Translate.
Yes, you can understand what's being said. That's not the point.
rereboy wrote:Found this in the comment section. I admit, I found it pretty funny :
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Lollers. Brayu is DBM's Quagmire: I can dig it.
As for the update, hmm, Vegetto, I see your tenth of power level, and I raise you one SSJ2.
Hee Hee you know what would be hilarious - Ginyu goes SSJ2 and is able to control it and gives Vegetto the fight of his life. Vegetto is so overcome with emotion of now fighting closest to his 100% he decides he will allow GInyu to stay in Bra!
So when Vegetto says that no one in any universe is a tenth stronger than him he is ignoring Broly, right? And we still don't know how the Ultimate Namek or SSJ3 Gogeta would fair against him
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Boasting for the purpose of intimidation =/= precise mathematically accurate power comparisons is what I'd say. No need to put any stock in what Vegetto says here.
Noah wrote:So when Vegetto says that no one in any universe is a tenth stronger than him he is ignoring Broly, right? And we still don't know how the Ultimate Namek or SSJ3 Gogeta would fair against him
He's just being arrogant and using hyperbole. He's also angry and trying to intimidate the enemy.
ekrolo2 wrote:Which seems reasonable since he's been around for a long time by now whereas the other Vegetto's we see don't last long enough to really form their own identity that goes beyond "I'm a combination of Goku and Vegeta".
Yeah, but that's why I said that canon Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes sense and is normal behavior. Multiverse Vegetto referring to himself as Vegetto makes him look like an egomaniac (which isn't out-of-character, mind you, I was just noting it).
Also, we're all just waiting for Ginyu to start posing right?
Scarz? Scarz we need you for something really quick!
STOP GIVING HER IDEAS DAMMIT.
The Monkey King wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:
Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.