Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
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Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Like Colleen and Merdith are both good in their own ways but you'd think the dub staff would stick to one or the other.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
That's kind of inconsistent.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.theoriginalbilis wrote:Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.
Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
It's not as inconsistent as you think. For all of Z and GT, Meredith voiced 18. It's just for Kai that she got a recast because she was unavailable. But if you want consistency, just watch: Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball Super because Meredith voices 18 in the original Z. I mean, sure you'll have to deal with a less quality dub than Kai - But unlike most people on here: The Z dub (at least the later parts of it) is not THAT bad. There's still some quality value to it.matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.
Also, certain voice actors in the original version also got recast so it's not as uncommon as you think. However, in terms of all the English Kid Gokus we have had (Saffron, Nadolny, and Colleen) - Yeah, that's really inconsistent.
Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
So many years have passed since original DBZ Funimation voices, don't be surprised if a few voice actress/actors are either not available or no longer interested. Personally I prefer the original but I'll take whatever they can provide. I was okay with Kai for the most part (only thing difficult accepting was Gohan's new voice actor/actress LOL), but I hope they do a good job with the Buu Saga Kai funimation. (JP so far is doing a AA+ job on this... hope US follows suit with similar performance).
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Doing that would give you a consistent 18, but an inconsistent Frieza (and I'd say Frieza had the more significant change).mecha3000 wrote:It's not as inconsistent as you think. For all of Z and GT, Meredith voiced 18. It's just for Kai that she got a recast because she was unavailable. But if you want consistency, just watch: Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball Super because Meredith voices 18 in the original Z. I mean, sure you'll have to deal with a less quality dub than Kai - But unlike most people on here: The Z dub (at least the later parts of it) is not THAT bad. There's still some quality value to it.matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Meredith McCoy wasn't available when Kai was being recorded, but she's back now and she's here to stay.
Personally I wish they'd have Meredith redub Colleen's lines in Kai now that she's back, like how they had certain characters redubbed in the orange bricks. Certainly they'll have a "definitive edition box set" release of all of DBZ Kai at some point, so that would be the opportune time to do it.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
That would be totally unnecessary. Cast changes are a thing that happens, no sense in obsessing over the consistency of it.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
For that matter, the original Japanese version has had its fair share of replacements over the years.SaintEvolution wrote:That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.theoriginalbilis wrote:Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.matt0044 wrote:That's kind of inconsistent.
A "rather haggard" translation of a line from Future Gohan in DBZ, provided to FUNimation by Toei:
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
"To think of fighting that is this fun...so, it was pleasant fight, as many as, therefore is a feeling which is good the fight where."
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Yeah I am pretty sure I read that too. It makes sense considering the dub of TFC started in 2013, McCoy came back for BoG which FUNi dubbed in 2014.Nightmare Wheel wrote:Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
I typed something longer out earlier, but I'll just say, simply put, that generally speaking, the owner of the show is much more accountable for these things, & DB dub issues are really on Toei, who have a pattern of both negligent & also heavily localized adaptations of their work (as opposed to investing in good dubs - which admittedly are a minority interest). The fact that they allowed whoever was distributing their stuff to use randoms, & especially the lack of translations, shows a clear lack of care about the final product. Domestically, they put a ton of money into the VO - performances which, btw, would for a very long time, not really be heard by most outside Japan. I'm not sure how other countries were treated, it'd be a nice thing to have concrete/synthesized info somewhere.TheBlackPaladin wrote:For that matter, the original Japanese version has had its fair share of replacements over the years.SaintEvolution wrote:That is not exclusive of the english dubs. Most of the dubs around the world had voice replacements in the same series in some moment.theoriginalbilis wrote:
Welcome to English-dubbed Dragon Ball.
For actor replacements, they are generally needed even in domestic productions, Toei did as well as say WB in keeping their domestic casts straight (though they woefully lag behind in international cast consistency), I think the only replacements are Suzuoki, Utsumi, & Gori, & mostly just with VAs who are already in the cast (Midorikawa, Otomo), although there are a few newer VAs, & Shozo Iizuka is replaced as Nappa despite being still alive (he's older so i get it).
Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Well, I think McCoy replacing Clinkenbeard for the Buu Saga onwards would've made enough sense with the Seven year time skip, growing up from a young adult.Nightmare Wheel wrote:Funimation's casting announcement said it's still Colleen in Final Chapters.(The link i had died, but I remember it clearly.)Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
That said, I feel like I'm in the minority for liking Colleen as #18 in terms of how she emotes a whole lot better than Meridith had. Not that the latter hasn't improved but I like how the former gives a more emotional performance. God knows how awkward the switch-back must've been. XD
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Uh, Colleen Clinkenbeard did come back as Android 18, right? They said she would in the casting announcement. For Kai: TFC, not for Super.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
Right, she worked on Dragon Ball Z Kai The Final Chapters as No. 18. Her absence relates to Dragon Ball Super & the timing of each title's recording dates.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
You know who could've been a better replacement for Meredith McCoy? Jamie Marchi.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
No, she's be too... valley girl with her Anarchy Panty from P&SwG. Colleen really gets 18's attitude as well as her youth.Dragon Ball Gus wrote:You know who could've been a better replacement for Meredith McCoy? Jamie Marchi.
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Re: Why does 18 have two voice actresses?
To be honest, I thought they were doing something where they kept Colleen for Kai because she already started it, and put McCoy on for BoG and Super for the dub nostalgia they were marketing. McCoy in TFC breaks my theory.Danfun64 wrote:Apparently McCoy is in The Final Chapters...so.....
The vocal inconsistency with English DBZ dubs can be really annoying.
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