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by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:09 pm
rereboy wrote:
Nitpicking is going out of our way to find things that allows us to criticize or badmouth something. Doing that consistently is not bashing?
I actually searched up the definition of Bashing and its considered to be violent criticism. So no, we're really not bashing his work. Also constantly? We're just voicing our thoughts and I'll say something for this special. The art is pretty good, sometimes.
rereboy wrote:
You can do whatever you want, I'm not the police. However, I don't see how it makes sense to look at a professional work done by professional artists that certain people had to pay for like Super is and be positive about its quality simply because the professionals working on it didn't have very good conditions, and then look at an amateur work done by amateurs in their free time and nitpick it. To me, that doesn't make sense at all.
The reason why I am impressed at Super's
animators is because they are working in a literal broken production, by all rights Super should have looked like utter crap, but the sheer talent of the animators managed to catapult it to average to really great moments. It makes perfect sense to me. I nitpick the production and criticize because it's a work on the internet subject to criticism.
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by rereboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:26 pm
Gog wrote:I actually searched up the definition of Bashing and its considered to be violent criticism. So no, we're really not bashing his work. Also constantly? We're just voicing our thoughts and I'll say something for this special. The art is pretty good, sometimes.
bashing: [ U ] strong criticism of a particular type of person or thing ->
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pt/dici ... es/bashing
bashing: severe public criticism ->
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dict ... sh/bashing
And I said consistently, not constantly. Different things.
The reason why I am impressed at Super's animators is because they are working in a literal broken production, by all rights Super should have looked like utter crap, but the sheer talent of the animators managed to catapult it to average to really great moments. It makes perfect sense to me. I nitpick the production and criticize because it's a work on the internet subject to criticism.
You see a professional work that manages to be average and you choose to notice, comment and emphasize the positive side of it because it could have easily been worse. And at the same time you see an amateur work that manages to be above average, if not even one of the best of its kind, and you choose to notice, comment and emphasize the negative, by nitpicking.
Doesn't make sense to me. But like I said, I'm not the police.
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by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:36 pm
Strong criticism, we're not strongly criticizing the work.
rereboy wrote:
You see a professional work that manages to be average and you choose to notice, comment and emphasize the positive side of it because it could have easily been worse. And at the same time you see an amateur work that manages to be above average, if not even one of the best of its kind, and you choose to notice, comment and emphasize the negative, by nitpicking.
Doesn't make sense to me. But like I said, I'm not the police.
Of course, I'm disappointed over the fact that Super could have easily have been better if the production was better. But I just understand the fact that the
animators are incredibly talented to the point they are capable of putting out work's that average around good to great, with some mediocrity and bad moments in it. That's what I'm impressed about, the fact that the
animators are capable of putting out work as good as it is now. In a literal broken production.
Of course Dragon Ball Multiverse is consistently good with it's art (besides the specials) and I still enjoy it. But the story is meh, the characters are meh, and the designs are abominations that should be purged from this earth. It's certainly not the best fan works out there. Heck I know that it has great moments. But the best Dragon Ball Fan works? I'd say it ranks third or fourth
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by rereboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm
I said "if not one of the best", not "the best".
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by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:46 pm
rereboy wrote:I said "if not one of the best", not "the best".
You've got a point, it's the second best fanmanga, but in terms of story... Fanfiction.net has dragon ball tales that crush every fan comic
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by rereboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:11 pm
Gog wrote:rereboy wrote:I said "if not one of the best", not "the best".
You've got a point, it's the second best fanmanga, but in terms of story... Fanfiction.net has dragon ball tales that crush every fan comic
I suggest that you create a new topic called "Fanfiction recommendations" with links to them for whoever might not know them.
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by mfwlegend3 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:12 pm
Gog wrote:Fanfiction.net has dragon ball tales that crush every fan comic
For me, Dragon Ball is something that must be comic-based. I couldn't enjoy it if it's simply a text narrative. It's not the same experience.
Other franchises, sure. But not DB.
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by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:33 pm
rereboy wrote:Gog wrote:rereboy wrote:I said "if not one of the best", not "the best".
You've got a point, it's the second best fanmanga, but in terms of story... Fanfiction.net has dragon ball tales that crush every fan comic
I suggest that you create a new topic called "Fanfiction recommendations" with links to them for whoever might not know them.
there's already one of those.
Also to stay on topic, ChiChi's pretty well drawn
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by rereboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:41 pm
Gog wrote:rereboy wrote:Gog wrote:
You've got a point, it's the second best fanmanga, but in terms of story... Fanfiction.net has dragon ball tales that crush every fan comic
I suggest that you create a new topic called "Fanfiction recommendations" with links to them for whoever might not know them.
there's already one of those.
Also to stay on topic, ChiChi's pretty well drawn
Then add the links to the existing topic if they aren't already there.
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by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:50 pm
rereboy wrote:Gog wrote:rereboy wrote:
I suggest that you create a new topic called "Fanfiction recommendations" with links to them for whoever might not know them.
there's already one of those.
Also to stay on topic, ChiChi's pretty well drawn
Then add the links to the existing topic if they aren't already there.
I don't know where the topic is and I'm too lazy to find it...

sorry bout' that
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by Dbzfan94 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:01 am
Gog wrote:
I don't know where the topic is and I'm too lazy to find it...

sorry bout' that
Take 5 seconds to search in the search bar
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by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:11 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:Gog wrote:
I don't know where the topic is and I'm too lazy to find it...

sorry bout' that
Take 5 seconds to search in the search bar
I'm. That. Lazy also am I the only one who feels that Goku is really acting out of character here?
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by Dbzfan94 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:38 am
Gog wrote:Dbzfan94 wrote:Gog wrote:
I don't know where the topic is and I'm too lazy to find it...

sorry bout' that
Take 5 seconds to search in the search bar
I'm. That. Lazy also am I the only one who feels that Goku is really acting out of character here?
You're that lazy yet youve built up 1700 posts in a month?
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by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:52 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:Gog wrote:Dbzfan94 wrote:
Take 5 seconds to search in the search bar
I'm. That. Lazy also am I the only one who feels that Goku is really acting out of character here?
You're that lazy yet youve built up 1700 posts in a month?
Okay, you've caught me. I just can't be bothered, also what's so impressive about that number?
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by dbgtFO » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:14 am
Gog wrote:, also what's so impressive about that number?
You are posting on average 41 times per day!

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by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:24 am
dbgtFO wrote:Gog wrote:, also what's so impressive about that number?
You are posting on average 41 times per day!


And? I expected more people here to do the same, in fact I was actually shocked when I saw how much people posted.
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by dbgtFO » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:14 am
Gog wrote:dbgtFO wrote:Gog wrote:, also what's so impressive about that number?
You are posting on average 41 times per day!


And? I expected more people here to do the same, in fact I was actually shocked when I saw how much people posted.
It's quite a lot, granted I also started out like a train, but my highest average was 20 a day. Though if I had joined when you did with the franchise back in top gear, perhaps I too would have averaged that many posts a day. It's just, if you keep this up you will be the guy with most posts within a very short time and that's insane.
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by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:01 am
Okay then can't actually keep up this topic, as it's you know off topic.
But anyway back on topic.
Why the hell is Freeza going to be in his finial form?
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by Lord Frieza » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:42 am
This is ok, Goku's characterization dose feel off though.
I cant wait to see how all this tension is going to be ruined by the authors never ending quest to troll Frieza.
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by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:12 am
Lord Frieza wrote:This is ok, Goku's characterization dose feel off though.
I cant wait to see how all this tension is going to be ruined by the authors never ending quest to troll Frieza.
Freeza's probably going to be saved by Guldo, which is the reason why he dies in the first place. Or Freeza is going to lose to Goku and Nail until the Ginyu force shows up