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[Gog]

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I'm shocked that regular Kaio Ken Goku was even capable of surprising first form Freeza, with such a measly power-level.

[ekrolo2]

I wonder if Goku would go for the kill if he knew about Freeza's transformations here.

[Rubens]

Well, to be honest I think he just took Freeza by surprise, who will probably come back unharmed after Goku's attack. Unless this is another of DBM's unclear level of Kaio-ken ("minimum kaioken", "higher kaioken", "maximum kaioken", etc.), which being the case it might mean he's using some other level without stating it.

[Noah]

So is this Goku probably around 300,000 (without Kaioken)? That's the only way I can think he being capable of doing that with Freeza

[Gog]

So is this Goku probably around 300,000 (without Kaioken)? That's the only way I can think he being capable of doing that with Freeza

Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300, 000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.

[Noah]

Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.

What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.

[Gog]

Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.

What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.

[Noah]

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.

Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.

[Gog]

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.

Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.

I thought that Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could go Super Saiyan the moment he was on Namek. But I just cannot find it, so it probably doesn't even exist in the first place.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.

Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.

I thought that Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could go Super Saiyan the moment he was on Namek. But I just cannot find it, so it probably doesn't even exist in the first place.

I think you are confused from this line from the manga:

Chapter: 270 (DBZ 76), P12.5
Narrator: “Even Goku hasn’t realized…That somewhere along the line he’s acquired enough power to surpass the level of Saiyan limits…”

After Goku fought the Ginyu Tokusentai, Vegeta & Ginyu saw that Goku had surpassed the level of Saiyan limits, so they assumed for a moment that he was a Super Saiyan.

[miguelnuva1]

Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.

What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

[Gog]

What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?

[OhHiRenan]

Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?

He probably hasn't had the right emotional trigger yet to tap into it.

[Gog]

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?

He probably hasn't had the right emotional trigger yet to tap into it.

How could he not have the right trigger? His son, and two friends have just died. But besides the point the real reason why Goku never transformed was because he's not strong enough in this universe. He's probably around 62K-63K in this universe, and the only reason why he managed to sucker punch Freeza was because he only managed to surprise him.

[Noah]

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?

[Gog]

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?

In the manga SSJ Trunks was being overwhelmed by base form Future Gohan.

[Noah]

In the manga SSJ Trunks was being overwhelmed by base form Future Gohan.

Ah yes, that's right. When I think about History Of Trunks it comes in my mind the TV Special 2 first and not the chapter of the manga because it was a better quality product IMO

But anyway, the manga implies that Trunks fought the Androids some time before using the Time Machine, so was he receiving constant Zenkais to grow stronger in order to keep up with the Androids

[miguelnuva1]

Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.

Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?

Trunks trained for 3 years after Gohan died and he got stronger. Half breed potential plus rage for losing Gohan made him stronger.

[coola]

Goku "I'm not afraid of you, Freezer"
Freeza "How about now?"
Sorry, i had to

[Gog]

Second form Freeza is my third favorite panel in the entirety of Dragon Ball Multiverse.