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I wonder if Goku would go for the kill if he knew about Freeza's transformations here.
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Well, to be honest I think he just took Freeza by surprise, who will probably come back unharmed after Goku's attack. Unless this is another of DBM's unclear level of Kaio-ken ("minimum kaioken", "higher kaioken", "maximum kaioken", etc.), which being the case it might mean he's using some other level without stating it.
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So is this Goku probably around 300,000 (without Kaioken)? That's the only way I can think he being capable of doing that with FreezadbgtFO wrote:
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Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300, 000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.Noah wrote:So is this Goku probably around 300,000 (without Kaioken)? That's the only way I can think he being capable of doing that with FreezadbgtFO wrote:
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What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.Gog wrote:Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.
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Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.Noah wrote:What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.Gog wrote:Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.
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Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.Gog wrote:Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.
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I thought that Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could go Super Saiyan the moment he was on Namek. But I just cannot find it, so it probably doesn't even exist in the first place.Noah wrote:Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.Gog wrote:Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.
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I think you are confused from this line from the manga:Gog wrote:I thought that Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could go Super Saiyan the moment he was on Namek. But I just cannot find it, so it probably doesn't even exist in the first place.Noah wrote:Stated where? I always thought Goku becoming a Super Saiyan was because he reached a peak in his Base that he would not get Zenkais anymore thus the leading to the transformation.Gog wrote:Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90,000.
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Narrator: “Even Goku hasn’t realized…That somewhere along the line he’s acquired enough power to surpass the level of Saiyan limits…”
After Goku fought the Ginyu Tokusentai, Vegeta & Ginyu saw that Goku had surpassed the level of Saiyan limits, so they assumed for a moment that he was a Super Saiyan.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.Gog wrote:Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.Noah wrote:What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.Gog wrote:Goku can't have a powerlevel of 300,000 in his base form, otherwise he would have turned Super Saiyan on Namek.
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Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.Gog wrote:Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.Noah wrote:
What you said has no connection at all, Goku turned Super Saiyan when his battle power was around 3,000,000 not 300,000.
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He probably hasn't had the right emotional trigger yet to tap into it.Gog wrote:Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.Gog wrote:
Akira Toriyama stated that Goku could have turned Super Saiyan the moment he stepped foot on Namek. Which means that the bare minimum for turning Super Saiyan is 90, 000.
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How could he not have the right trigger? His son, and two friends have just died. But besides the point the real reason why Goku never transformed was because he's not strong enough in this universe. He's probably around 62K-63K in this universe, and the only reason why he managed to sucker punch Freeza was because he only managed to surprise him.OhHiRenan wrote:He probably hasn't had the right emotional trigger yet to tap into it.Gog wrote:Then how in the blue blazes hasn't Goku transformed yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:
Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.
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Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.
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In the manga SSJ Trunks was being overwhelmed by base form Future Gohan.Noah wrote:Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.
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Ah yes, that's right. When I think about History Of Trunks it comes in my mind the TV Special 2 first and not the chapter of the manga because it was a better quality product IMOGog wrote:In the manga SSJ Trunks was being overwhelmed by base form Future Gohan.
But anyway, the manga implies that Trunks fought the Androids some time before using the Time Machine, so was he receiving constant Zenkais to grow stronger in order to keep up with the Androids
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Trunks trained for 3 years after Gohan died and he got stronger. Half breed potential plus rage for losing Gohan made him stronger.Noah wrote:Why you assume that? I think is unbelivable that Trunks had power level under 90,000 when he turned SSJ for the first time, then how he was able to resist the androids when they fought later, having not reached the million mark yet?miguelnuva1 wrote:Future Trunks was weaker than that and he turned SSJ.
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