The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Toppo runs the super gauntlet. Where does he stop at? Explain why.
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
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1.Toppo 1 shots Freeza.Current SSGSS Goku is stronger than he was at the tournament. Toppo = SSGSS Goku >KKX10 SSGSS Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FreezaBerserker1921 wrote:Toppo runs the super gauntlet. Where does he stop at? Explain why.
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
2.Again current Goku is much stronger than he was at the tournament Toppo wins.
3.I still had SSGSS Goku >SSJ Trunks.Toppo wins again
4.Unless Toppo finds a way to put down Black immediately Black just keeps on powering up and wins.
5.Lol Toppo gets manhandled by Vegito
6.Zamasu strikes him with his lightning attack and Toppo dies
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1.Berserker1921 wrote:Toppo runs the super gauntlet. Where does he stop at? Explain why.
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
From what we've seen from Toppo, he was strulling against a SSJB Goku way stronger than the one who fought against Golden Frieza. However, Toppo was strong enough to tank a warp kamehameha with little damage. Even tough Freeza is a hell strong opponent, Toppo is stronger. He wins without needing to use his full power.
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Toppo is stronger, however I can't see him beating Hit's time skip. U6's strongest fighter wins.
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Toppo needs to use his full power to beat SSJ2 Ultra Rage Trunks. Otherwise, they are pretty much equal.
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Do you mean SSJR Black ? Toppo needs his full power to beat him, otherwise he loses after a great battle.
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Vegetto Blue one shots.
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Merged Zamasu two shots.
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Cell is faster, stronger, more durable, has regeneration, skills, and what not. Cell wins.Gog wrote:New battles!
Cell(perfect) V Bojack
Buu(Super) V Buunemba(Janemba Kid Buu fusion)
Frost(first form) V Finial form Freeza
Babidi V Saiyan Saga Goku(no kaio ken)
Uub V Buu
Broly V everyone
Kid buu and Super Jenamba are both close to super buu in raw power. A fusion between them guarantees a stomp.
Freeza wins if he goes to 100%. If freeza is restricted to use the power he showed against Goku, then frost wins.
Goku stomps
Buu
Beerus erases
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They all get stomped badly.SaiyanGod117 wrote:SSJ Vegito (Buu Saga) vs GT Gohan, GT SSJ3 Goku (Adult Body), and GT Vegeta (No SSJ4)
Vegito is using all of his abilities to the fullest extent and trying to take out the team as quick as possible.
Ssj Vegito is still above Baby Vegeta (first form), who toyed with Ssj3 GT Goku.
Gohan and Vegeta are useless here.
- Toppo is on par with current SsjB Goku, who's at least 15x stronger than his ROF self. Golden Frieza, even without stamina issues, has no chance at all.Berserker1921 wrote:Toppo runs the super gauntlet. Where does he stop at? Explain why.
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
- Toppo wins, unless killing is allowed.
- It can go either way.
- You meant SsjR Black, right? If it's the one with the schyte, Toppo loses.
- 10 minutes are more than enough to one-shot the Pride Trooper leader.
- Toppo would not even be able to touch him, it doesn't matter if Zamasu isn't immortal anymore. There's a huge gap in power.
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New match: (License to Kill)
Legendary Assassin Hit (Episode 72) vs. Pride Trooper Toppo
Legendary Assassin Hit (Episode 72) vs. Pride Trooper Toppo
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
1) Golden Freeza blows up the planet after Toppo proves to be the superior fighter.Berserker1921 wrote:Toppo runs the super gauntlet. Where does he stop at? Explain why.
1. Golden Frieza (no stamina issues)
2. Hit (U6 Tornament/full power)
3. Ssj Rage Trunks
4. Ssj Black
5. Ssj Blue Vegito (10 mins till they seperate)
6. Merged Zamasu (No immortality)
2) Hit beats Toppo with the time skip technique, still an incredibly close and decisive battle.
3) Toppo easily flattens Trunks. He's just better in every category.
4) Toppo easily flattens SSJ Black. He's just better in every category.
5) SSB Vegetto is far stronger than Toppa. However he plays around with Toppo and defuses before long. Toppo wins by default.
6) Merged Zamasu completely and utterly destroys Toppo.
New battle!
SS3 Goku(Buu saga) V SS3 GT Goku
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Master Roshi in his prime vs 23rd budokai contestants.
Master Roshi vs Chiatzou
Master Roshi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Cyborg Tao
Master Roshi vs Yamcha
Master Roshi vs Krillin
Master Roshi vs Shen (Kami)
Master Roshi vs Tien
Master Roshi vs Piccolo
Master Roshi vs Goku
I feel that he easily dispatches of the first 3 on my list.
Now it gets interesting since the dragon gang have had training under Korin like he has now. But I feel in his prime he could defeat Yamcha, at least in a tournament setting.
I personally find it hard to place Kami's strength here as it's a borrowed vessel so surely he can't bring his full strength out. But I feel Roshi has a lot more martial arts experience and wouldn't fall for his goofy fighting style like yamcha did (considering roshi has drunken fist)
I think Krillin has developed too much for Roshi to be able to keep up with and he would lose after a tough fight.
Piccolo, Goku and Tien take Roshi without too much effort.
Master Roshi vs Chiatzou
Master Roshi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Cyborg Tao
Master Roshi vs Yamcha
Master Roshi vs Krillin
Master Roshi vs Shen (Kami)
Master Roshi vs Tien
Master Roshi vs Piccolo
Master Roshi vs Goku
I feel that he easily dispatches of the first 3 on my list.
Now it gets interesting since the dragon gang have had training under Korin like he has now. But I feel in his prime he could defeat Yamcha, at least in a tournament setting.
I personally find it hard to place Kami's strength here as it's a borrowed vessel so surely he can't bring his full strength out. But I feel Roshi has a lot more martial arts experience and wouldn't fall for his goofy fighting style like yamcha did (considering roshi has drunken fist)
I think Krillin has developed too much for Roshi to be able to keep up with and he would lose after a tough fight.
Piccolo, Goku and Tien take Roshi without too much effort.
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Roshi would be horribly outmatched by everyone here except perhaps Chaozu and Yajirobe, as we don't know exactly how strong they are. Tao, even at my lowest estimate for his power, would still be far stronger than 22nd Budokai Tenshinhan, a level which I doubt Roshi was at even in his prime. Everyone else on this list is even stronger than Tao.Master Roshi vs Chiatzou
Master Roshi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Cyborg Tao
Master Roshi vs Yamcha
Master Roshi vs Krillin
Master Roshi vs Shen (Kami)
Master Roshi vs Tien
Master Roshi vs Piccolo
Master Roshi vs Goku
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- I have Bojack winning. I have him stronger than the previous movie villian, Broly, who I have around Perfect Cell.Gog wrote:New battles!
Cell(perfect) V Bojack
Buu(Super) V Buunemba(Janemba Kid Buu fusion)
Frost(first form) V Finial form Freeza
Babidi V Saiyan Saga Goku(no kaio ken)
Uub V Buu
Broly V everyone
- I think Buunemba takes it, if it's normal Super Buu of course.
- Frost in his First Form wins.
- Goku wins, he's too strong for the weak Babidi.
- I think Buu wins, since I don't think Uub got to this level, at least in DBZ.
- Broly wins if the z warriors are in their Cell arc tier. Buu arc tier and above just stomp him.
Well, to be honest, I don't think Roshi in his prime is anywhere close to Cyborg Tao. He is supposed to be stronger than 22nd Budokai Tien, who was stronger than Roshi. Yamcha, who is above Cyborg Tao, should already be well above Roshi at that point, just like Krillin.Krillin1994 wrote:Master Roshi in his prime vs 23rd budokai contestants.
Master Roshi vs Chiatzou
Master Roshi vs Yajirobe
Master Roshi vs Cyborg Tao
Master Roshi vs Yamcha
Master Roshi vs Krillin
Master Roshi vs Shen (Kami)
Master Roshi vs Tien
Master Roshi vs Piccolo
Master Roshi vs Goku
I feel that he easily dispatches of the first 3 on my list.
Now it gets interesting since the dragon gang have had training under Korin like he has now. But I feel in his prime he could defeat Yamcha, at least in a tournament setting.
I personally find it hard to place Kami's strength here as it's a borrowed vessel so surely he can't bring his full strength out. But I feel Roshi has a lot more martial arts experience and wouldn't fall for his goofy fighting style like yamcha did (considering roshi has drunken fist)
I think Krillin has developed too much for Roshi to be able to keep up with and he would lose after a tough fight.
Piccolo, Goku and Tien take Roshi without too much effort.
I also think that Chiaotzu could win, since Roshi stated that everyone surpassed him. I'd say he's like equal to Roshi. Yajirobe is also probably above Roshi, since he managed to give a Goku, who was stronger than Roshi, a good fight.
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Piccolo(Cell games, Kaio Kenx2) V SSJ Goku (Cell games)
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I think Goku defeats him easily, since I think Piccolo is at least 40% of Goku since he's below Vegeta and Trunks who, despite being stronger than 50% of Goku they are still far below 100%, so with a Kaioken x2 Piccolo probably just gets to 80% of Goku.Gog wrote:Piccolo(Cell games, Kaio Kenx2) V SSJ Goku (Cell games)
Piccolo - 40%
Trunks - 55%
Vegeta - 60%
Goku - 100%
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Super Android 17 vs Goku Black
Equalized stats for both, but only for the start
SSB Goku ( Universe 6 arc) vs Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron
Movie 13- SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan, Super Buu, and Kid Buu
Move 13- SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ1 GT Goku
Equalized stats for both, but only for the start
SSB Goku ( Universe 6 arc) vs Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron
Movie 13- SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan, Super Buu, and Kid Buu
Move 13- SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ1 GT Goku
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Super Android 17 can't adsorb God Ki, and Goku Black gets progressively stronger through the match until he unlocks Super Saiyan Rose. After that there's no way in hell Super Android 17 can win.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Super Android 17 vs Goku Black
Equalized stats for both, but only for the start
SSB Goku ( Universe 6 arc) vs Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron
Movie 13- SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan, Super Buu, and Kid Buu
Move 13- SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ1 GT Goku
Super Buu adsorbs Mystic Gohan, and Kid Buu, then he proceeds to easily crush SS3 Goku in battle.
SS3 Goku easily crushes SSJ1 GT Goku. Heck even regular Goku from the Buu saga could easily defeat him.
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Base GT is as strong or stronger than Buu, Goku at his strongest in the Buu Saga is only a little bit stronger than Kid Buu.Gog wrote:Super Android 17 can't adsorb God Ki, and Goku Black gets progressively stronger through the match until he unlocks Super Saiyan Rose. After that there's no way in hell Super Android 17 can win.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Super Android 17 vs Goku Black
Equalized stats for both, but only for the start
SSB Goku ( Universe 6 arc) vs Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron
Movie 13- SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan, Super Buu, and Kid Buu
Move 13- SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ1 GT Goku
Super Buu adsorbs Mystic Gohan, and Kid Buu, then he proceeds to easily crush SS3 Goku in battle.
SS3 Goku easily crushes SSJ1 GT Goku. Heck even regular Goku from the Buu saga could easily defeat him.
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Rildo was only stated to be stronger or as strong as Majin Buu. We don't know which Buu he's referring to and even then GT Goku's SSJ Multipliers are much, much smaller than his multipliers in Z. Seriously Super Saiyan only doubles his power.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Base GT is as strong or stronger than Buu, Goku at his strongest in the Buu Saga is only a little bit stronger than Kid Buu.Gog wrote:Super Android 17 can't adsorb God Ki, and Goku Black gets progressively stronger through the match until he unlocks Super Saiyan Rose. After that there's no way in hell Super Android 17 can win.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Super Android 17 vs Goku Black
Equalized stats for both, but only for the start
SSB Goku ( Universe 6 arc) vs Gogeta SS4 and Omega Shenron
Movie 13- SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan, Super Buu, and Kid Buu
Move 13- SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ1 GT Goku
Super Buu adsorbs Mystic Gohan, and Kid Buu, then he proceeds to easily crush SS3 Goku in battle.
SS3 Goku easily crushes SSJ1 GT Goku. Heck even regular Goku from the Buu saga could easily defeat him.
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Still, being stronger than Buu in his base is still a huge power advantage he has over his Z-self. Not only that, in the Super 17 Saga, he was the only Z-fighter to present a challenge to Super 17. While previously Super 17 was manhandling people like SSJ Vegeta, Majuub, and Gohan, who are all at a level of power exceedlingy higher than SSJ3, which makes me come to mind I made a mismatch.Gog wrote:Rildo was only stated to be stronger or as strong as Majin Buu. We don't know which Buu he's referring to and even then GT Goku's SSJ Multipliers are much, much smaller than his multipliers in Z. Seriously Super Saiyan only doubles his power.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Base GT is as strong or stronger than Buu, Goku at his strongest in the Buu Saga is only a little bit stronger than Kid Buu.Gog wrote:
Super Android 17 can't adsorb God Ki, and Goku Black gets progressively stronger through the match until he unlocks Super Saiyan Rose. After that there's no way in hell Super Android 17 can win.
Super Buu adsorbs Mystic Gohan, and Kid Buu, then he proceeds to easily crush SS3 Goku in battle.
SS3 Goku easily crushes SSJ1 GT Goku. Heck even regular Goku from the Buu saga could easily defeat him.
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But being as strong as Buu in his base really isn't all that great when your SSJ only doubles your strength, and even then we don't know which Buu Goku was referring to, for all we know he could have been referring to Mr. Buu. What's so impressive about Super 17 manhandling a bunch of perfect cell tier fighters?SaiyanGod117 wrote:Still, being stronger than Buu in his base is still a huge power advantage he has over his Z-self. Not only that, in the Super 17 Saga, he was the only Z-fighter to present a challenge to Super 17. While previously Super 17 was manhandling people like SSJ Vegeta, Majuub, and Gohan, who are all at a level of power exceedlingy higher than SSJ3, which makes me come to mind I made a mismatch.Gog wrote:Rildo was only stated to be stronger or as strong as Majin Buu. We don't know which Buu he's referring to and even then GT Goku's SSJ Multipliers are much, much smaller than his multipliers in Z. Seriously Super Saiyan only doubles his power.SaiyanGod117 wrote: Base GT is as strong or stronger than Buu, Goku at his strongest in the Buu Saga is only a little bit stronger than Kid Buu.
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Do you know how strong GT characters actually are? SSJ doesn't double your strength, it increases it by a factor of 50.Gog wrote:But being as strong as Buu in his base really isn't all that great when your SSJ only doubles your strength, and even then we don't know which Buu Goku was referring to, for all we know he could have been referring to Mr. Buu. What's so impressive about Super 17 manhandling a bunch of perfect cell tier fighters?SaiyanGod117 wrote:Still, being stronger than Buu in his base is still a huge power advantage he has over his Z-self. Not only that, in the Super 17 Saga, he was the only Z-fighter to present a challenge to Super 17. While previously Super 17 was manhandling people like SSJ Vegeta, Majuub, and Gohan, who are all at a level of power exceedlingy higher than SSJ3, which makes me come to mind I made a mismatch.Gog wrote:
Rildo was only stated to be stronger or as strong as Majin Buu. We don't know which Buu he's referring to and even then GT Goku's SSJ Multipliers are much, much smaller than his multipliers in Z. Seriously Super Saiyan only doubles his power.
Gohan in GT continued his training after the defeat of Majin Buu, therefore he would be still be far stronger than SSJ3 Goku in the Buu Saga and no doubt stronger than he was in Z. Meanwhile, Vegeta was able to not only go blow for blow with him, but overpower him as well, which also puts him in a league beyond SSJ3. Just like Uub, who is definitely above SSJ3, after he fused with Majin Buu he was able to fight on par with Baby Vegeta and actually give him some trouble. Who was previously toying with SSJ3 Goku in a weaker form, and those three weren't even able to faze Super 17.
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In GT the Super Saiyan multiplier only doubles your strength.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Do you know how strong GT characters actually are? SSJ doesn't double your strength, it increases it by a factor of 50.Gog wrote:But being as strong as Buu in his base really isn't all that great when your SSJ only doubles your strength, and even then we don't know which Buu Goku was referring to, for all we know he could have been referring to Mr. Buu. What's so impressive about Super 17 manhandling a bunch of perfect cell tier fighters?SaiyanGod117 wrote: Still, being stronger than Buu in his base is still a huge power advantage he has over his Z-self. Not only that, in the Super 17 Saga, he was the only Z-fighter to present a challenge to Super 17. While previously Super 17 was manhandling people like SSJ Vegeta, Majuub, and Gohan, who are all at a level of power exceedlingy higher than SSJ3, which makes me come to mind I made a mismatch.
Gohan in GT continued his training after the defeat of Majin Buu, therefore he would be still be far stronger than SSJ3 Goku in the Buu Saga and no doubt stronger than he was in Z. Meanwhile, Vegeta was able to not only go blow for blow with him, but overpower him as well, which also puts him in a league beyond SSJ3. Just like Uub, who is definitely above SSJ3, after he fused with Majin Buu he was able to fight on par with Baby Vegeta and actually give him some trouble. Who was previously toying with SSJ3 Goku in a weaker form, and those three weren't even able to faze Super 17.
Then that means that Gohan did not in fact train. Seriously you just cannot explain Vegeta's performance against him then. Of course if SS3 Goku was being toyed around by Baby Vegeta in a weaker form does that not imply that SS3 Goku is in fact weaker than Majuub who managed to give trouble to a stronger version of Baby Vegeta, SSJ Vegeta who was capable of going toe to toe with Ultimate Gohan, and Gohan himself?