Unpopular DB opinions

[ekrolo2]

Super Saiyan Rage is stupid

In what way, how it happened? The way it happened? The design? The lack of formal explanation within the series? I am personally indifferent on the form.

All of the above.

[Kanassa]

I liked the Para Para Brothers, they were pretty entertaining.

[Beek King]

Super Saiyan Rage is stupid

The Spirit Sword, too.
It took all of Earth's energy to finish of Kid Buu but a bunch of barely alive survivors are enough to cut Zamasu who's magnitudes more powerful?

[Kanassa]

Super Saiyan Rage is stupid

The Spirit Sword, too.
It took all of Earth's energy to finish of Kid Buu but a bunch of barely alive survivors are enough to cut Zamasu who's magnitudes more powerful?

Two different situations and methods
Trunks used the energy to form a sword and slice Zamasu in half
Goku used the energy raw to engulf Buu and to completely destroy him

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

My unpopular opinion (at least in Kanzenshuu about Super):

The Genki Dama sword and everything involving it was brillant. Thematically fitting for Future Trunks character.
This piece of writing is up there with the best things ever writen in the franchise.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

My unpopular opinion (at least in Kanzenshuu about Super):

The Genki Dama sword and everything involving it was brillant. Thematically fitting for Future Trunks character.
This piece of writing is up there with the best things ever writen in the franchise.

It was cool, I guess. It was also a Deus ex Machina of the absolute worst kind. Not good writing by the furthest stretch of the imagination.

[The gr]

I prefer toyotaro take on god forms,is cool that SSG and ssb have an element of strategy and usages in that continuity,ssg for stamina, ssb for massive attacks

Is very intriguing, vegeta and goku Better use SSG again in the ToP

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

My unpopular opinion (at least in Kanzenshuu about Super):

The Genki Dama sword and everything involving it was brillant. Thematically fitting for Future Trunks character.
This piece of writing is up there with the best things ever writen in the franchise.

It was cool, I guess. It was also a Deus ex Machina of the absolute worst kind. Not good writing by the furthest stretch of the imagination.

In my book, Deus Ex Machinas are not a bad thing, so it doesn't bother me.

[ABED]

They're bad because it's inherently contrived plot device used to get a character out of a problem and often breaks the internal logic of the fictional world. Deus ex machina is bad writing.

[Dbzfan94]

Super Saiyan Rage is stupid

The Spirit Sword, too.

Yeah, these two (especially the Spirit Sword) ruined the Black arc for me

[jeffbr92]

Beerus cleaning Freeza's clock was the worst retcon in the entire franchise. It essentially destroys Freeza's entire belief as the strongest in the universe. It also makes him seem like the greatest moron in existence for not training so that he could surpass him. Rather, instead choosing to continue on as normal. It also breaks the fact that Freeza has never actually transformed past his third form against any threat.

Heck, Freeza should never have known about Beerus in the first place.

Sorry, English is not my first language but what you mean by "cleaning Freeza's clock"?

Alright then, Cleaning Someone's Clock is a term that means someone has beaten someone up, badly.

But when did Beerus had beaten Freeza?

[Beek King]

Sorry, English is not my first language but what you mean by "cleaning Freeza's clock"?

Alright then, Cleaning Someone's Clock is a term that means someone has beaten someone up, badly.

But when did Beerus had beaten Freeza?

I think it's mostly about the fact that Freeza had actually met Beerus who had threatened him.
I don't like this insertion of Beerus to everything either. The thing that ruined it the most for me is the revelation that it was actually Beerus who had ordered Freeza to blow up Planet Vegeta - it completely ruins the crux of Goku's and Vegeta's origin and the impact of Freeza's defeat. It's as if Freeza wouldn't have any reason to blow it up himself as was already established in the series (the Saiyans are too much of a threat to him) or Beerus couldn't do it on his own if he wanted it for shits and giggles anyway.

[Khin]

But when did Beerus had beaten Freeza?

It’s a comment from Toriyama in Volume “F”.

What’s the relationship between Beerus and Freeza?
Even Freeza is no match for the God of Destruction Beerus, no matter what he does! Since they both destroy stuff, they got along reasonably well, but one time Freeza had his clock cleaned when he got carried away and made Beerus angry.

[Kanassa]

I think it's mostly about the fact that Freeza had actually met Beerus who had threatened him.
I don't like this insertion of Beerus to everything either. The thing that ruined it the most for me is the revelation that it was actually Beerus who had ordered Freeza to blow up Planet Vegeta - it completely ruins the crux of Goku's and Vegeta's origin and the impact of Freeza's defeat. It's as if Freeza wouldn't have any reason to blow it up himself as was already established in the series (the Saiyans are too much of a threat to him) or Beerus couldn't do it on his own if he wanted it for shits and giggles anyway.

Was it ever actually stated that Beerus ordered Frieza to blow up Vegeta outside of the movie? Because from what I remember, the dialogue more implied that Beerus simply gave his blessing.

[The Patrolman]

I like SSJ Rose Goku Black english voice. The voice captures the differences between Goku and Black in the Jap version. Black has a more soft spoken than Goku does. Sean using this "british" voice actually suits Black than the Christian Bale Batman voice he was using for Base Goku Black.

[Lord Beerus]

My unpopular opinion (at least in Kanzenshuu about Super):

The Genki Dama sword and everything involving it was brillant. Thematically fitting for Future Trunks character.
This piece of writing is up there with the best things ever writen in the franchise.

It was cool, I guess. It was also a Deus ex Machina of the absolute worst kind. Not good writing by the furthest stretch of the imagination.

In my book, Deus Ex Machinas are not a bad thing, so it doesn't bother me.

Ironically, the whole Genki Dama Sword business made things even worse when you think about. Because is lead to Zamasu's immortal soul merging with universe in Future Trunks' timeline and killing all of the remaining earthlings and everything in Future Trunks timeline being wiped out as a result to prevent Zamasu's essence from spreading to other timelines. So, ironically, if anything, the Genki Dama Sword moment is actually a subtle deconstruction of the Deus ex Machina plot device because it only served to create even more issues instead of solving them, like a proper "Deus ex Machina" plot device would. Zamasu may have died at the hand of what was basically Deus ex Machina but he also technically succeeded through it. So... it's actually a deconstruction, a reconstruction and subversion of the plot device.

[Bansho64]

Ironically, the whole Genki Dama Sword business made things even worse when you think about. Because is lead to Zamasu's immortal soul merging with universe in Future Trunks' timeline and killing all of the remaining earthlings and everything in Future Trunks timeline being wiped out as a result to prevent Zamasu's essence from spreading to other timelines. So, ironically, if anything, the Genki Dama Sword moment is actually a subtle deconstruction of the Deus ex Machina plot device because it only served to create even more issues instead of solving them, like a proper "Deus ex Machina" plot device would. Zamasu may have died at the hand of what was basically Deus ex Machina but he also technically succeeded through it. So... it's actually a deconstruction, a reconstruction and subversion of the plot device.

Wow, that just gave me a whole other reason to hate that ending. How awful can an ending be when it can't even manage to pull an asspull correctly.

[dbs fanboy]

Ironically, the whole Genki Dama Sword business made things even worse when you think about. Because is lead to Zamasu's immortal soul merging with universe in Future Trunks' timeline and killing all of the remaining earthlings and everything in Future Trunks timeline being wiped out as a result to prevent Zamasu's essence from spreading to other timelines. So, ironically, if anything, the Genki Dama Sword moment is actually a subtle deconstruction of the Deus ex Machina plot device because it only served to create even more issues instead of solving them, like a proper "Deus ex Machina" plot device would. Zamasu may have died at the hand of what was basically Deus ex Machina but he also technically succeeded through it. So... it's actually a deconstruction, a reconstruction and subversion of the plot device.

Wow, that just gave me a whole other reason to hate that ending. How awful can an ending be when it can't even manage to pull an asspull correctly.

I kinda love it because it's like a middle finger to Trunks's asspulls during the arc (also a middle finger for me after killing the only two humans that i cared about).

[jeffbr92]

I like SSJ Rose Goku Black english voice. The voice captures the differences between Goku and Black in the Jap version. Black has a more soft spoken than Goku does. Sean using this "british" voice actually suits Black than the Christian Bale Batman voice he was using for Base Goku Black.

I think it was a little bit forced, english Zamasu is awful tho

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Apart from some scenes where the green tint really shows the Kai Buu saga remaster isn't bad. Not spectacular like Kai 1.0's remastering but watchable.