I won't put any value into that until we see where things are going with him, but it's possible. I'm not an optimist though.ekrolo2 wrote:Freeza's latest return does have a benefit the other one's don't: he'll be doing something different this time. Literally the mentality behind AAALLLL of his comebacks was to use him as a punching back to make someone look cool.
Now he's gotta interact with these people he despises and cooperate with them, potentially work to screw them by conspiring with the enemy or to make himself look better,...
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I'm not optimist too on that either. I think they will just bring Freeza for sh*t and giggles and have him go back to Hell after the tournament ends or maybe erase him for good. There are so many possibilities that could be amusing in this scenario, but they probably will play safe on this one.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I won't put any value into that until we see where things are going with him, but it's possible. I'm not an optimist though.
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It's a dark age when I'm the optimist for onceNoah wrote:I'm not optimist too on that either. I think they will just bring Freeza for sh*t and giggles and have him go back to Hell after the tournament ends or maybe erase him for good. There are so many possibilities that could be amusing in this scenario, but they probably will play safe on this one.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:I won't put any value into that until we see where things are going with him, but it's possible. I'm not an optimist though.
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While I prefer sub over dub when it comes to DBZ, I honestly prefer watching the first 3 DBZ movies with the Ocean dubs to the Japanese version. There's just something about those dubs that I love. They make me wish Ocean had dubbed the other movies.
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King Cold, Coola, and Chilled all should never have existed.
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Cooler isn't canon. Chilled probably isn't either. EoB doesn't make sense anyway.Gog wrote:King Cold, Coola, and Chilled all should never have existed.
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Dragon Ball is the franchise equivalent of Schrödinger's cat. It exists in a state of canon, and non canon at the same time.8000 Saiyan wrote:Cooler isn't canon. Chilled probably isn't either. EoB doesn't make sense anyway.Gog wrote:King Cold, Coola, and Chilled all should never have existed.
But, that's not my problem with them. My problem with them is that they're all Freeza's clones in terms of personality.
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Not really, they have their common family traits (Like being complete and utter prats with big egos), but they do have their own personalities. Well, except for Chilled, he supposed to be a Frieza clone so that Bardock in some way gets to kick Frieza's ass.Gog wrote:But, that's not my problem with them. My problem with them is that they're all Freeza's clones in terms of personality.
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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But, that's the problem their just all Freeza clones with some disposable quirks, Coola's supposedly Freeza, but smarter(except he's really not at the end of the day), King Cold's Freeza, but more delusional. At most all I can say if that some of them had good designs.Kanassa wrote: Not really, they have their common family traits (Like being complete and utter prats with big egos), but they do have their own personalities. Well, except for Chilled, he supposed to be a Frieza clone so that Bardock in some way gets to kick Frieza's ass.
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Cooler is a pragmatic man, while he does have a ego he doesn't allow it to consume him. He's a respectful and well-mannered person towards his alies; treating his subordinates with a large degree of trust, never abusing or threatening them and even offering to take on opponents that they can't deal with as well as even being open to their advice. He doesn't fight or kill for his own amusement, he does so for the sake of self-improvement and because it's his 'job'. Though, he does seem to have an extreme inferiority complex with his family, comparing everything he does in some way to Frieza. Like Vegeta in a way, he's always out to prove something.Gog wrote: But, that's the problem their just all Freeza clones with some disposable quirks, Coola's supposedly Freeza, but smarter(except he's really not at the end of the day), King Cold's Freeza, but more delusional. At most all I can say if that some of them had good designs.
Cold can't really be said to be a copy of Frieza, because he barely has any time to have a personality. He's there for, what? Two episodes? And for most of that he just seems to be an over bearing and flamboyant father who likes to stand behind powerful beings. The only noticeable scene of personality is when he offers to take Trunks as his son because he killed Frieza.
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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I would say Coola did let his ego consume him. He was confident with his unexplained transformation he could defeat the Legendary Super Saiyan who defeated his brother, and father, but when it proved to not be enough he freaked out. Even then I wouldn't go as far as to call Coola pragmatic considering his whole entire plan consisted of smashing the Super Saiyan with his new form.Kanassa wrote: Cooler is a pragmatic man, while he does have a ego he doesn't allow it to consume him. He's a respectful and well-mannered person towards his alies; treating his subordinates with a large degree of trust, never abusing or threatening them and even offering to take on opponents that they can't deal with as well as even being open to their advice. He doesn't fight or kill for his own amusement, he does so for the sake of self-improvement and because it's his 'job'. Though, he does seem to have an extreme inferiority complex with his family, comparing everything he does in some way to Frieza. Like Vegeta in a way, he's always out to prove something.
Heck, Freeza from Fukkatsu No F had a better plan than him. Train for four months to become over a million times stronger (also gaining an unexplained form) so that you wont get smushed by Goku, and if that fails get Sorbet and his ring to kill him while he's off guard, and if that fails blow up the planet. By that logic Freeza himself is more pragmatic than his brother.
Freeza was also well mannered, and respectful towards his allies, he did consistently refer to them as Mr, and he did trust them to get the job done in the end. Freeza only ever threatened his allies with death when everything was falling apart at the very end, even then it was only once, and only towards Zarbon who rightfully did mess up.
Coola fights to avenge the honor, and pride of his family which is the only reason why he even bothered showing up on Earth in the first place. And Coola has never actually fought for improvement in the first place considering that even his fifth form was just something he mutated one day. In fact it's even implied that Coola was the stronger of the two.
I wouldn't describe King Cold as flamboyant, I would call him cowardly however.Cold can't really be said to be a copy of Frieza, because he barely has any time to have a personality. He's there for, what? Two episodes? And for most of that he just seems to be an over bearing and flamboyant father who likes to stand behind powerful beings. The only noticeable scene of personality is when he offers to take Trunks as his son because he killed Frieza.
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Dub haters can be much worse than the sub haters.
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Cauliflowa never should have learned Super Saiyan.
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Much less SS2 in a span of 3 hoursGog wrote:Cauliflowa never should have learned Super Saiyan.
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I know how you feel. To me it's pure nostalgia. It just brings me back 20 years. And not the same way the Ocean dub of the TV does either. The movies were rare treats, so the emotional connection I have with them is even more intense because back in the day I could only see them once in a blue moon.8000 Saiyan wrote:While I prefer sub over dub when it comes to DBZ, I honestly prefer watching the first 3 DBZ movies with the Ocean dubs to the Japanese version. There's just something about those dubs that I love. They make me wish Ocean had dubbed the other movies.
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I don't mind the lack of blood in Super. Hell, I think Black killing Future Bulma is one of the most disturbing scenes in Dragon Ball as a whole.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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I think Goku Black killing Chi Chi and Goten is far more disturbing. Because you don't actually see it happen. You're left to your imagination as to how horrifically he used his ki sword to butcher them down.Kanassa wrote:I don't mind the lack of blood in Super. Hell, I think Black killing Future Bulma is one of the most disturbing scenes in Dragon Ball as a whole.
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I think the existence of DBS rof is far More disturbing because we don't know what's the purpose for being there or the suffering of the animators due of the rough schedule,oh the agony of the animators Being criticized constantly due of the bad animationLord Beerus wrote:I think Goku Black killing Chi Chi and Goten is far more disturbing. Because you don't actually see it happen. You're left to your imagination as to how horrifically he used his ki sword to butcher them down.Kanassa wrote:I don't mind the lack of blood in Super. Hell, I think Black killing Future Bulma is one of the most disturbing scenes in Dragon Ball as a whole.
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Universe 6 Saiyans had the most boring and bad looking first transformations ever, for any species..
Cauliflowas concentration energy looked like she had a bunch of pimples on her back..
Cauliflowas concentration energy looked like she had a bunch of pimples on her back..
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The purpose of retelling BOG and ROF was because there are millions of potential new fans of the show who had not watched BOG and ROF. It was basically done to prevent continuity lockout. The BOG retelling wasn't even that bad. It was actually pretty decent and serviceable. It's the ROF retelling, more specifically from Episode 21 - 26 (Excluding the first half of EP 26 where Tate give us gorgeous animation), that the quality and consistency nose dives.The gr wrote:I think the existence of DBS rof is far More disturbing because we don't know what's the purpose for being there or the suffering of the animators due of the rough scheduleLord Beerus wrote:I think Goku Black killing Chi Chi and Goten is far more disturbing. Because you don't actually see it happen. You're left to your imagination as to how horrifically he used his ki sword to butcher them down.Kanassa wrote:I don't mind the lack of blood in Super. Hell, I think Black killing Future Bulma is one of the most disturbing scenes in Dragon Ball as a whole.
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