"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Doctor.]

Aww man, not "boy satisfaction".
Boy satisfaction?

I heard "I can't get more satisfaction" but I may be mistaken. If it's "boy satisfaction" I suppose he means he can't get the same childish satisfaction he used to before? Worded very weirdly, though.

[JulieYBM]

We're still six months away from #133 airing, but if I had to guess with the hints we've seen up until now it will simply means switching gears for the next storyline, perhaps to something crafted specifically by Toyo-tarou. I can't really see Toriyama bringing anything new to the table at this point. Weirder stuff has happened before, though, so we'll have to see what the production committee has in store for us.

I also can't imagine Limit Break x Survivor continuing past #133, either, since April is such a traditional shift. We should at least get a new Opening.

[Noah]

Here are the lyrics of the full OP if someone can translate them:
[spoiler]歌詞(耳頼りなので間違いがあるかもしれません)

興奮すっぞ 宇宙へGO！
最先端の夢中を どう！
この手に掴むよ
素っ頓狂に笑ってたい！
ちんぷんかんは慣れっこだい！
I can't get no satisfaction

退屈は 石になる
重くて落ちちゃう 前に
ワクワクの 羽広げ
次の世界へ 行こう

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！

想像すっぞ 愉快な今日！
？？？(聴き取れませんでした)
夢見りゃ叶うよ
大混戦だ かかってこい！
バッタンキューと 捻ってポイ！
I can't get boy satisfaction

信じれば 手の中に
渦巻く かめはめの波
悲しみを 砕く時
君も 戦士だろ

意外性を秘めた 奴が生き残る
マジかよ 100倍 ヤバいサバイバル
行くぞ限界×突破 パワー全開100%
秒速 進化の バトルが見せ場さ
ドラゴンボールスーパー
破壊神だけへちゃむくれ〜！

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
半端じゃないスーパー
超えてやるぜスーパー
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！[/spoiler]

Nice! Do we have the full song released now?

I also can't imagine Limit Break x Survivor continuing past #133, either, since April is such a traditional shift. We should at least get a new Opening.

Why not we had the same first opening for 76 episodes, right?

[perucho1990]

The song lyrics mentions something like "I will become 100 times stronger", maybe Goku new transformation makes him stronger than Vegetto and at least Genkidama Trunks level.

The manga implied Jiren will be stronger than Jiren(barring immortality).

[RedHeat]

Here are the lyrics of the full OP if someone can translate them:
[spoiler]歌詞(耳頼りなので間違いがあるかもしれません)

興奮すっぞ 宇宙へGO！
最先端の夢中を どう！
この手に掴むよ
素っ頓狂に笑ってたい！
ちんぷんかんは慣れっこだい！
I can't get no satisfaction

退屈は 石になる
重くて落ちちゃう 前に
ワクワクの 羽広げ
次の世界へ 行こう

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！

想像すっぞ 愉快な今日！
？？？(聴き取れませんでした)
夢見りゃ叶うよ
大混戦だ かかってこい！
バッタンキューと 捻ってポイ！
I can't get boy satisfaction

信じれば 手の中に
渦巻く かめはめの波
悲しみを 砕く時
君も 戦士だろ

意外性を秘めた 奴が生き残る
マジかよ 100倍 ヤバいサバイバル
行くぞ限界×突破 パワー全開100%
秒速 進化の バトルが見せ場さ
ドラゴンボールスーパー
破壊神だけへちゃむくれ〜！

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
半端じゃないスーパー
超えてやるぜスーパー
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！[/spoiler]

Nice! Do we have the full song released now?

I also can't imagine Limit Break x Survivor continuing past #133, either, since April is such a traditional shift. We should at least get a new Opening.

Why not we had the same first opening for 76 episodes, right?

It's out. Whoops, forgot to include it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHOHS8xYGk&t=2s

[Noah]

The song lyrics mentions something like "I will become 100 times stronger", maybe Goku new transformation makes him stronger than Vegetto and at least Genkidama Trunks level.

Are we really speculating stuff from the opening lyrics? For realsies? This is worse than thinking Goku and Gohan will be last standing in U7 just because the ending implied so.

It's out. Whoops, forgot to include it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHOHS8xYGk&t=2s

Thanks, mate!

[Doctor.]

The song lyrics mentions something like "I will become 100 times stronger", maybe Goku new transformation makes him stronger than Vegetto and at least Genkidama Trunks level.

Are we really speculating stuff from the opening lyrics? For realsies? This is worse than thinking Goku and Gohan will be last standing in U7 just because the ending implied so.

OP lyrics are very clearly sung from Goku's perspective.

[namekiansaiyan]

Episode 133 based on current breaks and one at new year will be 8th April. The tournament will probably end in the middle to late 120's and tge rest being in between arc episodes. That is probably why these 3 have been announced at the same time.

[JulieYBM]

Why not we had the same first opening for 76 episodes, right?

The first one was ultra generic. Even if they kept this second opening theme around for some post-tournament one-shot storylines it's not likely they'd keep it into the next major arc.

[HeroR]

Here are the lyrics of the full OP if someone can translate them:
[spoiler]歌詞(耳頼りなので間違いがあるかもしれません)

興奮すっぞ 宇宙へGO！
最先端の夢中を どう！
この手に掴むよ
素っ頓狂に笑ってたい！
ちんぷんかんは慣れっこだい！
I can't get no satisfaction

退屈は 石になる
重くて落ちちゃう 前に
ワクワクの 羽広げ
次の世界へ 行こう

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！

想像すっぞ 愉快な今日！
？？？(聴き取れませんでした)
夢見りゃ叶うよ
大混戦だ かかってこい！
バッタンキューと 捻ってポイ！
I can't get boy satisfaction

信じれば 手の中に
渦巻く かめはめの波
悲しみを 砕く時
君も 戦士だろ

意外性を秘めた 奴が生き残る
マジかよ 100倍 ヤバいサバイバル
行くぞ限界×突破 パワー全開100%
秒速 進化の バトルが見せ場さ
ドラゴンボールスーパー
破壊神だけへちゃむくれ〜！

可能性のドアは ロックされたまま
やれやれ 今度も 壁をぶち破る
今だ限界×突破 叫べへのへのかっぱ
無敵の オイラが そこで待っている
半端じゃないスーパー
超えてやるぜスーパー
ドラゴンボールスーパー
全王様もおったまげ〜！[/spoiler]

Nice! Do we have the full song released now?

I also can't imagine Limit Break x Survivor continuing past #133, either, since April is such a traditional shift. We should at least get a new Opening.

Why not we had the same first opening for 76 episodes, right?

It's out. Whoops, forgot to include it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHOHS8xYGk&t=2s

Thanks.

[ArchedThunder]

It'll contine in anime in some shape or form. Though amazon is where this schedule came from and they always put placeholders on things. 133 is probably a special checking in on all surviving universes with a slice of life to this grand scale of an arc. Box 11 is just where amazon has currently stopped, they aren't going to announce a schedule from episode 1 to end. If that was the case we'd know all of the boxes from start to finish when Super started. They do so many at a time usually arc by arc because I doubt they plan a sequel arc until the current one is over. They might have an idea on a napkin by Toriyama somewhere lying around but with Supers production scheduled I seriously doubt they have any progress or storyboards lined up outside the end of this arc. Toyotaro is under belief that its no where near ending but we are about to go into EoZ territory, etc. while its possible that Super is the end of Goku's story and Toriyama is stepping down, another series without him will take its place. There was too much hype around the Dragon Ball room/ hiring new artists and too much money made for them to just put it down with no more material. Toriyama has seemed to be fully willing to stop and let someone else take over the story so he won't have to do anything, as a matter of fact... He has encouraged it.

On second thought, has anyone thought of that extra episode being the redo/reinactment of the EoZ?

The listed run time for Box 11 is also that of 13 episodes.

Also you are way off on production, if they didn't start planing the next arc until the current one finished then the show would have completely collapsed and stayed there long ago, it wouldn't be continually improving with each arc. We know Scripts are written at least 5 months in advance, potentially further in advance now. It's pretty ridiculous to say that they haven't done anything in regards to the next arc yet, production isn't linear, preproduction, writing, storyboarding and animation for different episodes are always going on at the same time, people aren't just going to sit on their hands for months because the arc hasn't finished, they keep working. Unless this arc ends up going for like 10 more months then at minimum Toei is working on their layout of the next arc based on the outline provided to them, and depending on the state of preproduction and when this arc will end they may have potentially already completed that layout and could be writing scripts right now, regardless of if the next arc will be the start of a new show or not, and if the next arc happens to be a new show then it very well could be treated as a separate production which would help things along even more. If Super ends on 133 it's probably only because they feel like the next arc deserves a new series name and/or they want the next arc to be a leap forward in visual quality.

[FortuneSSJ]

The manga implied Jiren will be stronger than Jiren (barring immortality).

Makes sense...

[Noah]

I don't know I probably need get used more, but I still prefer the TV version.

[Kanassa]

Maybe the extra episode is the special airing in October

[ArchedThunder]

Why not we had the same first opening for 76 episodes, right?

The first one was ultra generic. Even if they kept this second opening theme around for some post-tournament one-shot storylines it's not likely they'd keep it into the next major arc.

Yeah, the first opening was definitely made to be used on multiple arcs, both in terms of visuals and the song itself, the current opening on the other hand has clearly been specifically made for this arc on both fronts.
It looks like this arc could go well into December and potentially beyond that, so if the opening is replaced next arc this one will still get a lot of play, probably more than 40 episodes and Toei has replaced openings after fewer episodes than that on One Piece.

[pacz360]

To be followed by Dragon Ball & Robin?

Good one.

Thanks!

For the dvd boxes, isn't it possible that whatever arc it covers has an odd episode count so they added one extra to squeeze it in there? One extra episode is no big deal. I wish Funi would do that so we could get the arcs in a single set instead of one episode short.

I really don't see the ToP arc running all the way to episode 133 anyway. I'll be surprised if it goes to 120.

Its not ending in November thats for sure

[Chuquita]

That's true. It puts that rumor to rest.

[pacz360]

Episode 133 based on current breaks and one at new year will be 8th April. The tournament will probably end in the middle to late 120's and tge rest being in between arc episodes. That is probably why these 3 have been announced at the same time.

Same i see it ending in December or January due to the scehedule

[HeroR]

Good one.

Thanks!

For the dvd boxes, isn't it possible that whatever arc it covers has an odd episode count so they added one extra to squeeze it in there? One extra episode is no big deal. I wish Funi would do that so we could get the arcs in a single set instead of one episode short.

I really don't see the ToP arc running all the way to episode 133 anyway. I'll be surprised if it goes to 120.

Its not ending in November thats for sure

Bit of an assumption there.

[namekiansaiyan]

Thanks!

For the dvd boxes, isn't it possible that whatever arc it covers has an odd episode count so they added one extra to squeeze it in there? One extra episode is no big deal. I wish Funi would do that so we could get the arcs in a single set instead of one episode short.

I really don't see the ToP arc running all the way to episode 133 anyway. I'll be surprised if it goes to 120.

Its not ending in November thats for sure

Bit of an assumption there.

The end of November will be episode 115. This is too short for everything left surely.