Super Episode 119 (10 December 2017)
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After knowing that the next episode might be U3's end, I can say I hope to see a little bit of the final confrontation (U7 vs. U11) before the year's end.
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But it's not the same. You can't forget to use your vision or wigns and things like that. But the concept of not hearing because lack of focus or focus on something else is very realistic and logical. It happens in real life. Calling it ludicrous is plain wrong.Michsi wrote:It's because it's not logical that people are unconvinced. Having the character mention the misstep doesn't make the whole thing any more believable as a narrative decision. If he had wings and forgot how to use them, but then mentioned on the bench how he forgot how to use would that make the whole thing any less ludicrous?Amir wrote:Still doesn't make the elimination bad.PsionicWarrior wrote:
Says you, seems like most people familiar with the character around hear find it to be a nonsense cheers lol
It made sense. It's your problem for not accepting such a logical explanation. Picvolo himself said that if he focused on the sound he could have won.
Just because the story tries to offer an explanation doesn't mean people will just accept it unquestiongly.
As for the arm extend ability Piccolo has, the explanation is really simple, he was too overwhelmed from the assault that he didn't have time to recover quick enough. The show shouldn't even adress something like that because it's super
obvious. In fact, I would have been mad if they did. When Krillin got eliminated by Frost, he didn't use a ki blast to jump back in like he had done earlier, because earlier, no one attacked him.
People make excuses, in reality, they are just salty that Piccolo got eliminated by a bug so casually without any drama. I agree that Tien's and Krillin's eliminations were bad because they both fell for something they shouldn't have: being ''off guard'', a very annoying cliche that doesn't even suit those characters. It was stupid, but here it wasn't.
I still thought the episode was weak because of the overall direction and how everything was so underwhelming and rushed. I wouldn't call it a super bad episode like the sniper episode, though.
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Precisely, hence why people are upset about Piccolo going out in such fashion lolAmir wrote:I still thought the episode was weak because of the overall direction and how everything was so underwhelming and rushed.
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Unbelievable Piccolo didn't use his stretchy arms to just grab the stage and pull himself up. He merely slipped off the edge. Very underwhelming defeat for such a fantastic contribution to the team.
Another episode without any real attention for Freeze which is upsetting.
Interested to see Gohan and Vegeta take it up another notch in the coming episodes.
I am 100% convinced at this point Vegeta is going to learn the auto-attack part of Ultra Instinct, and he will fuse with Goku to learn their greater potential.
Another episode without any real attention for Freeze which is upsetting.
Interested to see Gohan and Vegeta take it up another notch in the coming episodes.
I am 100% convinced at this point Vegeta is going to learn the auto-attack part of Ultra Instinct, and he will fuse with Goku to learn their greater potential.
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Salty is just being part of it, but I had no problem with him being eliminated so much as the reason they gave for it. It seems to be overwhelmingly considered a bad move, despite the explanation the show tried to give. It means it falls flat. That should tell them something.Amir wrote:[
But it's not the same. You can't forget to use your vision or wigns and things like that. But the concept of not hearing because lack of focus or focus on something else is very realistic and logical. It happens in real life. Calling it ludicrous is plain wrong.
As for the arm extend ability Piccolo has, the explanation is really simple, he was too overwhelmed from the assault that he didn't have time to recover quick enough. The show shouldn't even adress something like that because it's super
obvious. In fact, I would have been mad if they did. When Krillin got eliminated by Frost, he didn't use a ki blast to jump back in like he had done earlier, because earlier, no one attacked him.
People make excuses, in reality, they are just salty that Piccolo got eliminated by a bug so casually without any drama. I agree that Tien's and Krillin's eliminations were bad because they both fell for something they shouldn't have: being ''off guard'', a very annoying cliche that doesn't even suit those characters. It was stupid, but here it wasn't.
I still thought the episode was weak because of the overall direction and how everything was so underwhelming and rushed. I wouldn't call it a super bad episode like the sniper episode, though.
The stretchy arms doesn't doesn't bother me, I don't he could've used it anyway the way he was hit.
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I certainly hope not, from a narrative pov I would personally prefer if Vegeta learns UI in a further arc, also please no more Vegetto lolJables wrote: I am 100% convinced at this point Vegeta is going to learn the auto-attack part of Ultra Instinct, and he will fuse with Goku to learn their greater potential.
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It would be stupid if he learned it in a later arc and vegito actually wasn't even supposed to appear in the last one.PsionicWarrior wrote:I certainly hope not, from a narrative pov I would personally prefer if Vegeta learns UI in a further arc, also please no more Vegetto lolJables wrote: I am 100% convinced at this point Vegeta is going to learn the auto-attack part of Ultra Instinct, and he will fuse with Goku to learn their greater potential.
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Well, maybe it is stupid, but it's also dumb. Vegeta always attains an arc's strongest form one arc late. Typical DB formula.Supersaiyanbulla wrote:It would be stupid if he learned it in a later arc and vegito actually wasn't even supposed to appear in the last one.PsionicWarrior wrote:I certainly hope not, from a narrative pov I would personally prefer if Vegeta learns UI in a further arc, also please no more Vegetto lolJables wrote: I am 100% convinced at this point Vegeta is going to learn the auto-attack part of Ultra Instinct, and he will fuse with Goku to learn their greater potential.
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Not only stupid, but also dumb? Sounds right up his alley.Torturephile wrote:Well, maybe it is stupid, but it's also dumb. Vegeta always attains an arc's strongest form one arc late. Typical DB formula.Supersaiyanbulla wrote:It would be stupid if he learned it in a later arc and vegito actually wasn't even supposed to appear in the last one.PsionicWarrior wrote: I certainly hope not, from a narrative pov I would personally prefer if Vegeta learns UI in a further arc, also please no more Vegetto lol
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Stupid and dumb are the same thing. Unless you mean dumb as in unable to speak.. No idea of the proper connotation for that.
Maybe pantomime! That is the attack side of attacking without thinking! Or is pantomime the end result of perfecting both sides of this art?
It's that or puppetry.
Maybe pantomime! That is the attack side of attacking without thinking! Or is pantomime the end result of perfecting both sides of this art?
It's that or puppetry.
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Pretty much.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Not only stupid, but also dumb? Sounds right up his alley.Torturephile wrote:Well, maybe it is stupid, but it's also dumb. Vegeta always attains an arc's strongest form one arc late. Typical DB formula.Supersaiyanbulla wrote: It would be stupid if he learned it in a later arc and vegito actually wasn't even supposed to appear in the last one.
Sure.Arugela wrote:Stupid and dumb are the same thing. Unless you mean dumb as in unable to speak.. No idea of the proper connotation for that.
Maybe pantomime! That is the attack side of attacking without thinking!
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Totally agree. Like at least we're getting 2 episodes here for U3's final plan with Ep 120 & 121. But I guess underhanded tricks are no match for true power once those tricks have been exposed. And U7 is not dumb enough to figure out underhanded tricks for more than 1 episode. That's their reasoning I supposeKi Breaker wrote:Thanks for the gif, I will be taking this now..Kokonoe wrote: [spoiler][/spoiler]
It feels like they went through the whole lot of Toriyama's plot points for Universes 4 in one episode, every mystery fighter was out and wrapped in in a single episode..KingKaash wrote:All the hype of the sneaky Quitela having something planned to cause major trouble in the ToP and yet the episode didn't quite deliver..
It could have easily been stretched out to 2 or more for more of an impact..
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