Theory - Jiren's Wish

[burrito007]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

[fadeddreams5]

Nah. I doubt they'd go that route. Fans would be pissed. lol.

If they want Jiren to subvert expectations, his wish should not be to revive his fallen loved ones. Instead, his wish should be to call forth the villain that killed them.

[shadowmaria]

Plot twist; Goku Black was the killer, which is why Jiren was so stand-offish with Goku in the beginning

inb4 clickbaiters take my idea and pass it off as canon

[Jackalope89]

It's for pudding, duh!

[Kataphrut]

Someone remind me, what was Younger Tugoro's wish from the first Dark Tournament? Cos it's gonna be that.

[TheMikado]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

[Asura]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

Actually wouldn't that just doom all the universes? The Zenos were going to destroy them anyway.

[Kataphrut]

In all seriousness, now that we know Jiren's wish, I'm 99% sure he won't get to use it. If it were kept ambiguous, then maybe it could have led to the upset ending where Jiren wins but his wish restores Universe 7 and brings everything full circle with the End of Z (none of this retconning Super business people keep suggesting though, y'all should know that ain't happening).

Now we know he just wants to bring back his family or get revenge or whatever, he can't be allowed to win because then there's no way for EoZ to happen.

[Asura]

In all seriousness, now that we know Jiren's wish, I'm 99% sure he won't get to use it. If it were kept ambiguous, then maybe it could have led to the upset ending where Jiren wins but his wish restores Universe 7 and brings everything full circle with the End of Z (none of this retconning Super business people keep suggesting though, y'all should know that ain't happening).

Now we know he just wants to bring back his family or get revenge or whatever, he can't be allowed to win because then there's no way for EoZ to happen.

I don't think it's that simple. 17 seemed to imply that but Jiren just said "Ridiculous." and then pretty much said he doesn't care about the past anymore now that he has strength.

[Ki Breaker]

Plot twist; Goku Black was the killer, which is why Jiren was so stand-offish with Goku in the beginning

This could actually work..
Think about it like this, black couldn't have possibly defeated Jiren with that much power unless you believe the very much weaker immortal zamasu defeated him, which is kinda possible but not likely..

Black could have went to the past with his ring to eliminate Jiren before he was all powerful, which he did, which in turn caused the last unexplained time ring to appear creating an alternate timeline..

It was a shame to waste black with a green man fusion, him coming back and being a recurring Villan or even better an ally with Freeza would be great..

[Amir]

Yeah his wish still hasn't been revealed yet. We only know it has a lot to do with his past and obsession with strength.

[nato25]

Yeah his wish still hasn't been revealed yet. We only know it has a lot to do with his past and obsession with strength.

Imagine if it was something like all beings will have the same power level without the ability to grow stronger or weaker. Would make for some great dialogue from Goku.

[TheMikado]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

Actually wouldn't that just doom all the universes? The Zenos were going to destroy them anyway.

No the Future Trunks arc proved the universes were still around in a future where Goku never meets Beerus.

[ShinTenshin]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

With the future DB Movie about Yamoshi and the Sayajins origins, it's now 100% confirmed than BOG/FNF/SUPER can't be erased.
Yamoshi is directly related to SSGOD so there is no way you can supress Beerus/SSGOD/SSBLUE/UI for the EOZ.
Even if it's your biggest wish, it's a dream with 0% chance, except if you delete the next Movie lol

[TheMikado]

Here's my prediction for Jiren's wish: Jiren will wish that all of Super gets wiped out and we are taken back to pre-super. essentially erasing the entirety of super and bringing us to EOZ with power levels similar to those of the Buu arc.

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

With the future DB Movie about Yamoshi and the Sayajins origins, it's now 100% confirmed than BOG/FNF/SUPER can't be erased.
Yamoshi is directly related to SSGOD so there is no way you can supress Beerus/SSGOD/SSBLUE/UI for the EOZ.
Even if it's your biggest wish, it's a dream with 0% chance, except if you delete the next Movie lol

Hopefully we can discuss that 0% chance in a month or so.

[Kataphrut]

In all seriousness, now that we know Jiren's wish, I'm 99% sure he won't get to use it. If it were kept ambiguous, then maybe it could have led to the upset ending where Jiren wins but his wish restores Universe 7 and brings everything full circle with the End of Z (none of this retconning Super business people keep suggesting though, y'all should know that ain't happening).

Now we know he just wants to bring back his family or get revenge or whatever, he can't be allowed to win because then there's no way for EoZ to happen.

I don't think it's that simple. 17 seemed to imply that but Jiren just said "Ridiculous." and then pretty much said he doesn't care about the past anymore now that he has strength.

I just rewatched the scene, that sounded like denial to me. 17 touched a nerve, Jiren got mad and started ranting about how strength forgives all, then tried to blow him with a big energy ball. My read is all he really wants is closure for what happened but can't admit that because he's stuck in this warped Darwinist mindset. It's classic edgy superhero stuff.

[ShinTenshin]

Yup, we have;

Future trunks timeline destoyed
17 dead
Multiple universes destroyed

The only way to undo it is to prevent it from happening.

My prediction is that Jirens wish is to have his family saved in the past. But then realizing that his family along with his universe would be destroyed anyway in the ToP and basically wishes that all this never happened which would probably take the form of Goku never meeting Beerus. Effectively saving all universes in the process.

With the future DB Movie about Yamoshi and the Sayajins origins, it's now 100% confirmed than BOG/FNF/SUPER can't be erased.
Yamoshi is directly related to SSGOD so there is no way you can supress Beerus/SSGOD/SSBLUE/UI for the EOZ.
Even if it's your biggest wish, it's a dream with 0% chance, except if you delete the next Movie lol

Hopefully we can discuss that 0% chance in a month or so.

Add the fact that the Toriyama's interview about SSGOD and Yamoshi was made at the end of november 2017 far far later than his script about TOP....
So there is absolutely no reason for Toriyama to keep revealing something he decide to suppress 1 year ago...
And since december, we know Toriyama work for the new Movie, so it's pretty clear his interview with Yamoshi is connected to the new script !

So to resume, the thing we see now in DBSUPER is way before the revelation of SSGOD origin.

[Raphael_Z]

My theory is that he will ask for EVERYONE that has been killed/erased to be resurrected in ALL Universes ever since the dawn of time in ALL timelines.

In doing so he will bring back his family, friends, 17, Frieza plus the universes and planets destroyed by Zeno and the Gods of Destruction (plus the people killed by Dragon Ball's enemies such as Frieza, Black and the Future Androids).

Cliche but that's the only real resolution I think will happen.

[AnimeNation101]

This is the most likely in my opinion. Jiren ends up winning somehow and as he’s about to make his wish, he remembers that he lives for justice and that his master wouldn’t have wanted him to make a selfish wish. A theme in this arc is casting something of yours aside for the greater good. Jiren will cast aside his selfish wants to fix his past by instead wishing to restore all the universes erased by the Zenos.

HOPEFULLY: In either a movie, TV special, or arc, after the Tournament Goku meets up with Jiren, thanking him for the wish he made and then Jiren asks him for his and Vegeta’s help in Universe 11 as he plans on facing off against the evil-doer once and for all.

[mahakaishin1991]

Yeah his wish still hasn't been revealed yet. We only know it has a lot to do with his past and obsession with strength.

it's either infinite power or bringing back his parent