Dragono wrote:Artorias wrote:Dragono wrote:
You're still going to watch it, aren't you?
Why do people think that this is a point? Yes, I am going to watch it. That doesn't magically mean I can't be apprehensive about it's quality, and even in the end criticize it. So far, it seems like a story I'm not even remotely interested in, but I'm hoping they can MAKE me interested (which they potentially could if the it's written well enough). So far, it seems pointless, but maybe I'll be proven wrong.
miguelnuva1 wrote:
No one asked for a lot of Dragonball or Star Wars stories.
But this one in particular seems exceedingly pointless. I didn't need or want to hear more about the backstory of the Saiyans, or Freeza, or SSG, or Yamoshi, or whatever. ENOUGH with the Saiyans. This franchise desperately needs to explore other aspects of it's world than how ultra mega super duper badass these monkey freaks of nature are.
majinwarman wrote:
Though I understand his worry that the movie may not have a great story, I don't think he should trash on the movie before it even comes out.
I don't really think I'm "trashing" the movie. I'm simply explaining how I have little faith in Toriyama's ability to write a coherent, interesting story anymore. And to be frank, modern Dragon Ball would support my apprehension. I think people have a right to be worried and take a "prove me wrong" attitude with this. The franchise hasn't had a story of any real worth since MAYBE BoG, but even then that was pretty simple and forgettable in terms of plot.
Let me explain the point: if you are going to watch it regarding of quality then why do you care about the quality?
Its like saying you are going to eat a meal regardless of how it tastes but then proceed to complain about how it tastes.
if you think the movie is not going to interest you, then don't watch it and wait for something that does. Its not the same as going into a movie and criticizing it. You're going into a movie already hating the premise and having little faith in it. Thats just not logical thinking.
If the movie sucks and you say I was right, you willingly watched a crappy movie that you knew would be bad. The loser is pretty clear in that situation.
Couple things: first, I want to watch the movie mainly to see the gorgeous visuals. And second, I am going into a movie hating the premise, but it's part of a franchise I deeply enjoy, a franchise that used to be well written, a franchise that still COULD be well written today.
Also, I never understood this kind of argument. I am a fan of Dragon Ball, so therefor I am going to give anything that comes out in the franchise a chance. Like I've stated, there is always a chance it comes out and actually blows me away and sees Toriyama return to form. I never claimed that it was somehow guaranteed to be shit, just that I'm apprehensive and struggling to be "hyped", because I know there's a solid chance all of this beautiful animation will be wasted on a lackluster film.
And in addition, I just don't buy this whole "if you don't like it don't watch it". If something that is part of a series that I love doesn't meet expectations, I and others have every right to criticize it.
Think about it this way: I criticize it because I love it. If I didn't care, I would've just stopped talking about it.
JazzMazz wrote:
I mean, the director of the film is the same guy that made the fourth coming of Freeza interesting for gods sakes. If he could make that interesting, I'm sure he can do something with Toriyama's script in this film.
If your not going to have any faith in Toriyama(which, lets face it, is more than a little justified at this point), than at least have some faith in Nagamine.
Oh absolutely, I have full faith in the visuals/presentation side of things, and all of that is the main reason I am still somewhat excited for the film. I have no doubt that the director and animators will come through and deliver on their end. I just wish/hope the plot itself can match the quality of the presentation.