1. Way to make a strawman bro. I never said a story needed to go into pointless details like the full extent of Freeza's empire if the plot has nothing to do with it.ABED wrote:I'm saying people don't care that much about lore and the world of the story beyond what it takes to clarify the story.
The engaging characters, dialog, acting. I don't need to know everything about the world and the characters beyond what the story needs to tell me. I don't need to know the ins and out of Freeza's planetary empire. I just need to know they exist, in essence what they do, and who the leader is.How the hell are you supposed to be engaged to any work of fiction if they are aren't interested in the story that makes it happen?
Yes, STORY, not LORE. People don't tune in for exposition.Saiyan and Namek arcs wouldn't held in such a high regard in Japan and much of the world's audience if the story/lore didn't matter to them.
While I can agree somewhat, I've seen plenty of bland sounding ideas end up great because it was executed well. This all is very vague. Could you give specific examples?Concepts and ideas are not neutral. Some are inherently better than others and that effects the quality of any possible execution of them. Some ideas are simple unsalvageable.
So what got people into the story is something that explained what happened earlier in the story they didn't watch?That's are big part of what got Japan (and other regions that saw Early DB first) hooked on the Saiyan and Namek arcs.
2. Also, lore and setting are literally the same thing. The main STORY of the Saiyan and Namek arc is centered around the LORE surrounding both races and how Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and Freeza are relate to it. So you are committing the false-dichotomy fallacy.