It kind of seems like referencing Mount Paozu in fact be a broad strokes approach itself. Again, Grandpa Gohan’s home didn’t have a name in the manga. Toriyama never gave it one, and unlike in the anime, that place was never revisited after Goku met Bulma. Referencing it definitely doesn’t seem like it would’ve been Toriyama’s idea. Your Bardock comparison doesn’t really work, since even with Bardock’s brief cameo in the manga, there was never any indication that the special as a whole was canon. Toriyama simply referenced it because he liked it. On the other hand, I can’t think of any reason why Mount Paozu would be referenced. It would be like having Gregory show up on Kaio’s planet.Rakurai wrote:Toei owns the rights to producing the anime. Let me put it this way for you.WittyUsername wrote:
I don’t understand what you’re trying to get at. Toei also owns the rights to DB, but they aren’t the ones who created the franchise.
Besides, “Mount Paozu” being the name of Goku’s home is something that Toei made up. My initial point was that referencing something that was exclusive to Toei’s version of the series kind of goes against the notion that the manga is entirely Toriyama’s vision. I seriously doubt that Toriyama insisted that Toyatoro randomly reference a name from the anime.
Toei made up Bardock's original story. Toriyama still incorporated it into his manga during serialization, before he retconned it (and he is allowed to because he is the author).
Toei made up Broly. Toriyama still incorporated the character into his story.
Toriyama is free to take whatever he wants from any part of the DB franchise and adapt it into his own DB story, hence why he have stuff like Bardock or Broly. Likewise, Toyotarou can take whatever he wants and incorporate it into the manga whether it came from anime or video games, and as long as it doesn't contradict the original manga then it remains a proper canonical sequel.
The DBS manga logically follows the original manga. The same cannot be said from the anime. BlueBasilisk said it best, the anime takes a 'broad-strokes' approach with regards to it which does not work as a canonical sequel. The F. Trunks TV special does not tell the events of F. Trunks as is supposed to be in the original manga story just because the anime decided to adapt it into the Super anime.
The canonical sequel to the DB manga is the manga, not the anime.Saturnine wrote:There is no such thing as "something canon to something else". There's just "canon" and "not canon". That you probably mean is something entorely consistent with another part of the franchise, which in post BoG Dragon Ball is very difficult to determine, really.
The Broly comparison works even less so, since the upcoming movie is explicitly ignoring the events of the older films.