Oh! Well...no, rearranging [ruh-KOOM] (Reacoom) gets you [kuh-REEM] (Cooream), or it WOULD if the OO was able to become a reduced vowel. That's why I was saying that people would see "Reacoom" and only emphasize the second syllabel. Sadly, a spelling like "Cooream" would be pronounced [KOR-uhm] or [KOR-ee-uhm] due to the OOR... Perhaps "OO" isn't the best way to write it. "Reacume"? As a rearrangin of "Ceuream"? I dunno how to pronounce "CEU", but...maybe it could be pronounced [kuh]? Especially with the more obvious "EA" in the second syllabel probably getting the emphasis.Robo4900 wrote:No no no, I mean reaarranging "ruh-KOOM" gives you "koo-RUM". That's my criticism. Cream would probably rearrange into "ree-KM", which you can't really pronounce, so it needs some form of extra sound there...
I was saying that the "RE" in 'recoup' is basically a separate word becuz...as a separate word, it can end getting pronounced separately. Like how people mite pronounce 'Iceland' as [AHYS-luhnd] or [AHYS LAND], and 'mailman' as [MEHYL-muhn] or [MEHYL MAN]. I've definately heard people say all those, AND even 'recoup' as [REE KOOP]. That's why with a made-up name like 'Reacoom', it's all one thing, and [REE KOOM] isn't possible. BUT, when you spell it "Rea Coom", Rea-Coom", "Rea-coom", or ReaCoom", you CAN get that two-word pronunciation. In fact, you kinda force it. It's like how we spell "Kiyo'oka' to prevent confusion. Or how Viz spells "Rin-ne" as they do, since "Rinne" might get pronounced [RIN].Robo4900 wrote:You have explained why the words I cited are the way they are, but this doesn't refute my citing of them.
What do you mean people don't say [ruh-KOOP]? Of course people do. All the time. Some pronounce the "re" as [ruh], some as [reh], and some as [rih]. YOU pronounce it [reh], and that's fine, but even the dictionary (stupidly) says you're wrong, and that it's only correct pronunciation is [rih-KOOP]. Like you, I hate the idea of pronouncing the E as an I, but most people probably do use [rih] since the dictionary only puts in what's most commonly used. That aside, I'm fine with [ruh], as it's neutral. It's a sound that can logically be used with any vowel letter. ...Unlike using an I-sound for the letter E. (This site mite help you understand what I'm trying to say: https://pronuncian.com/intro-to-schwa/)Robo4900 wrote:You're getting stuck on one minor part of this. I suggested "REE-koom", but I'm just as behind "ree-KOOM". Choose your battles; either argue for "ree-KOOM" or argue against both.
Anyway, "Recoup" very clearly emphasises the second syllable, and yet you don't say "ruh-KOOP". That would be dumb... It would negate the "Re" part of the word... It would muddy the origins of the word, and thus deprive it of meaning... Sound familiar?
It's true that it's a made-up name, not a word...but it clearly is using English rules for its spelling, so people are going to see "Reacoom" and put the emphasis on the second syllable, and then either pronounce the first syllable with an reduced vowel sound, OR they might think the "EA" is two syllables (like 'reality'), resulting in [REE-uh-KOOM]. But anyway, if it were more Japanese (or just more non-English looking), like say "Rikūmu", people would be more likely to pronounce all the vowels in full. Tho, plenty would still mess it up... Like Naruto as [nuh-ROO-ro] (that second R being a standard R as apposed to an English R...but let's not get into that rite now. Heh...)Robo4900 wrote:Recoup is an existing word. Reacoom is, for the sake of this discussion, a name we're inventing. Still, as I say, pick your battles... I will gladly concede the "REE-koom" vs "ree-KOOM" part of this. Does also make it easier to explain its pronunciation as "It's just like 'recoup', only it's 'Reacoom'" than it would be if we did the odd emphasis I suggested before.
Yeah, I guess "Vegerot"'s a bit different... Hm... Nevermind then. I need a better examel. LolRobo4900 wrote:This feels like a strawman argument to me. It isn't like Vegerot at all, and I say that as someone who does advocate for Vegerot. Vegerot is totally reinventing the name to fix an inconsistency in their own adaptation that appears if you don't fix it, meanwhile Reacoom is slightly differently rendering the original name to reflect the root pun better.