Lack of females characters in Dragon Ball

[Bruma rabu]

I get your point, I'm saying there is a reason to learn to fight. Even if Goku defeated Piccolo, he BARELY survived both encounters. Also, given the world they live in and just there immediate surroundings on Mt. Paoz, it is a good idea to teach Gohan how to defend himself. Then there's the positive benefits of a healthy body. There's no downside in teaching him martial arts. He can do both. Instead, Chichi's reaction is one of the reasons I don't like her - it's exaggerated to the point of caricature.

I don't know what your last sentence means. It's logically incoherent. If Mr. Satan couldn't return how was he kept in the story?

Was working while I typed that. What I ment was Toriyama could of easily keep him out completely after the cell arc. He didn't have to return.

[ABED]

I get your point, I'm saying there is a reason to learn to fight. Even if Goku defeated Piccolo, he BARELY survived both encounters. Also, given the world they live in and just there immediate surroundings on Mt. Paoz, it is a good idea to teach Gohan how to defend himself. Then there's the positive benefits of a healthy body. There's no downside in teaching him martial arts. He can do both. Instead, Chichi's reaction is one of the reasons I don't like her - it's exaggerated to the point of caricature.

I don't know what your last sentence means. It's logically incoherent. If Mr. Satan couldn't return how was he kept in the story?

Was working while I typed that. What I ment was Toriyama could of easily keep him out completely after the cell arc. He didn't have to return.

But he did, so what's your point? He could've kept him out of the story but he didn't because he felt there was more to do with the character and he was right. He did A LOT more with Mr. Satan. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out.

Anyway, can we get back to the female characters?

[Bruma rabu]

I get your point, I'm saying there is a reason to learn to fight. Even if Goku defeated Piccolo, he BARELY survived both encounters. Also, given the world they live in and just there immediate surroundings on Mt. Paoz, it is a good idea to teach Gohan how to defend himself. Then there's the positive benefits of a healthy body. There's no downside in teaching him martial arts. He can do both. Instead, Chichi's reaction is one of the reasons I don't like her - it's exaggerated to the point of caricature.

I don't know what your last sentence means. It's logically incoherent. If Mr. Satan couldn't return how was he kept in the story?

Was working while I typed that. What I ment was Toriyama could of easily keep him out completely after the cell arc. He didn't have to return.

But he did, so what's your point? He could've kept him out of the story but he didn't because he felt there was more to do with the character and he was right. He did A LOT more with Mr. Satan. I'm not sure what you're trying to point out.

Anyway, can we get back to the female characters?

That y'all wanted to get rid of 18 cause she's just Kuririn wife.

[MasenkoHA]

That y'all wanted to get rid of 18 cause she's just Kuririn wife.

Literally no one said that.

[Bruma rabu]

That y'all wanted to get rid of 18 cause she's just Kuririn wife.

Literally no one said that.

If you have nothing else to do for them, then write them out.

[MasenkoHA]

Stating Toriyama shouldn’t have kept a character he had no idea what to do with other than being a wife=/= wanting to get rid of a character on the basis that she is another character’s wife.

[ABED]

Stating Toriyama shouldn’t have kept a character he had no idea what to do with other than being a wife=/= wanting to get rid of a character on the basis that she is another character’s wife.

This. The obvious inference from my statement is that either Toriyama gives her something to do or he writes her out. At no point did I write or even imply that he should write a female character out of his story BECAUSE she is a wife.

As little as it is, giving Tenshinhan's moment to 18 would've been preferable.

[Bruma rabu]

It seemd to me like y'all didn't like the fact that Toriyama had left her as only kururin wife. And I interpret that as it would of been better to just not use her at all than to make her just his wife.

[ABED]

It seemd to me like y'all didn't like the fact that Toriyama had left her as only kururin wife. And I interpret that as it would of been better to just not use her at all than to make her just his wife.

Just being the operative word. I'm not against her being Kuririn's wife. What I don't like is that being the extent of her involvement. Granted, she played a role in the tournament, but nothing else after that beyond cannon fodder.

[MasenkoHA]

. Granted, she played a role in the tournament, but nothing else after that beyond cannon fodder.

And she doesn’t even come to collect her cash in the main timeline. It was just an excuse to keep Mr.Satan the planet’s champion.

[Bruma rabu]

It seemd to me like y'all didn't like the fact that Toriyama had left her as only kururin wife. And I interpret that as it would of been better to just not use her at all than to make her just his wife.

Just being the operative word. I'm not against her being Kuririn's wife. What I don't like is that being the extent of her involvement. Granted, she played a role in the tournament, but nothing else after that beyond cannon fodder.

What's wrong with that?

[MasenkoHA]

It seemd to me like y'all didn't like the fact that Toriyama had left her as only kururin wife. And I interpret that as it would of been better to just not use her at all than to make her just his wife.

Just being the operative word. I'm not against her being Kuririn's wife. What I don't like is that being the extent of her involvement. Granted, she played a role in the tournament, but nothing else after that beyond cannon fodder.

What's wrong with that?

Making a female character a reward “or a waifu” for a male character is tired, cliche writing?


She can be Kurilin’s wife and her own character. Her entire function post-Cell is “Well Kurilin is a nice guy and deserves a wife so here’s a female for him”

This has kind of been mine (and I think Abed’s) point in regards to the topic of this thread. Dragon Ball doesn’t need MORE female characters it needs to do BETTER

[ABED]

Bingo.

While I wish Lunch had been given an actual ending, writing her out was the right idea. Toriyama wasn't doing anything with her, so why keep her around?

[Bruma rabu]

Just being the operative word. I'm not against her being Kuririn's wife. What I don't like is that being the extent of her involvement. Granted, she played a role in the tournament, but nothing else after that beyond cannon fodder.

What's wrong with that?

Making a female character a reward “or a waifu” for a male character is tired, cliche writing?


She can be Kurilin’s wife and her own character. Her entire function post-Cell is “Well Kurilin is a nice guy and deserves a wife so here’s a female for him”

This has kind of been mine (and I think Abed’s) point in regards to the topic of this thread. Dragon Ball doesn’t need MORE female characters it needs to do BETTER

Maybe it's cause I just can't objectify women like that but I think the series does enough with her to show that she more than just kururin wife. She's a stoic woman with a no nonsense attiduted that loves the family she and kururin built together. She participated in a tournament and won after that she help save her entire reality.

[ABED]

She doesn't win the tournament. She agrees to let a liar win in order to make money, but we never see her collect. I don't see her doing much beyond being Kuririn's wife. How does she help save the world beyond be one of the millions that give Goku her energy for the Genki Dama?

[JulieYBM]

#18 is always good for some gags or the random battle.

[Bruma rabu]

She doesn't win the tournament. She agrees to let a liar win in order to make money, but we never see her collect. I don't see her doing much beyond being Kuririn's wife. How does she help save the world beyond be one of the millions that give Goku her energy for the Genki Dama?

You're right she didnt win but she got a lot more money for coming in second. Knowing how she is, she got her money. She fought in the tournament of power and made it pretty far in it. She had some pretty cool moments in that arc looking back. Her fight with ribrianne was real good. I think this is pretty good considering she not even a central character.

[ABED]

She doesn't win the tournament. She agrees to let a liar win in order to make money, but we never see her collect. I don't see her doing much beyond being Kuririn's wife. How does she help save the world beyond be one of the millions that give Goku her energy for the Genki Dama?

You're right she didnt win but she got a lot more money for coming in second. Knowing how she is, she got her money. She fought in the tournament of power and made it pretty far in it. She had some pretty cool moments in that arc looking back. Her fight with ribrianne was real good. I think this is pretty good considering she not even a central character.

She probably did, but apparently it wasn't a story important enough to follow up on in any way.

[Bruma rabu]

She doesn't win the tournament. She agrees to let a liar win in order to make money, but we never see her collect. I don't see her doing much beyond being Kuririn's wife. How does she help save the world beyond be one of the millions that give Goku her energy for the Genki Dama?

You're right she didnt win but she got a lot more money for coming in second. Knowing how she is, she got her money. She fought in the tournament of power and made it pretty far in it. She had some pretty cool moments in that arc looking back. Her fight with ribrianne was real good. I think this is pretty good considering she not even a central character.

She probably did, but apparently it wasn't a story important enough to follow up on in any way.

Yeah considering what was happening during all that.

[ABED]

Which proves that she doesn't do anything important.