Oh okay, I misread then. I just think overall that the evidence is there that Rosé isn't SSGSS in the anime, I don't remember if it was you or not but someone did say that they thought Toei misunderstood Akira Toriyama and saw Super Saiyan Rosé as the same thing as Black's Super Saiyan that is a match for Goku's SSGSS, I personally think that's probably the case, as even then they didn't bother to correct anything and the video games treated Rosé as Super Saiyan.The Undying wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:40 amThat wasn't a reply to you, I'm just addressing some misconceptions I've seen floating around in this thread. Stuff like "they don't need to go red first to hit blue" and "Rosé has a different base" are plainly refuted by at least one medium, while the other medium is too unclear to support them.
I agree that people shouldn't be conflating Super Saiyan God with god ki. They're not the same - SSG is stated to beget god ki, not the other way around.
Right, but the difference is that the anime doesn't care enough to answer these questions by itself. This may not be anything more convoluted than "Rosé is SS1 in the anime but colored differently because of Black's ki".
I wouldn't think about it too much. Toei clearly doesn't.
If there's anything I can agree on is that anime Rosé may not be the exact same as Super Saiyan 1, but instead Goku Black's 'evil' Super Saiyan, or as Toriyama put it: A Super Saiyan of a slightly different color than Goku.
Overall I just think people shouldn't be referring to Rosé as SSGSS in terms of the anime, because it creates a ton of confusion.