Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:14 pm

Upa was considered a main cast member at one point. That got dropped quickly.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:36 pm

nickzambuto wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:14 pm Upa was considered a main cast member at one point. That got dropped quickly.
Do you have source of this claim ?
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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Matches Malone » Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:48 pm

Bebi Hatchiyack wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:36 pm
nickzambuto wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:14 pm Upa was considered a main cast member at one point. That got dropped quickly.
Do you have source of this claim ?
I don't think anyone ever outright said this, but there were art that had him as part of the group during that time frame, leading fans to believe that was the plan before Toriyama changed his mind.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:59 pm

Bebi Hatchiyack wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:36 pm
nickzambuto wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:14 pm Upa was considered a main cast member at one point. That got dropped quickly.
Do you have source of this claim ?
He made the covers and art portraying the main cast.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:35 pm

Gohan vs. Super Buu was going to be the final battle in the series. I'm surprised that no one mentioned that yet.
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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by MasenkoHA » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:51 pm

nickzambuto wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:59 pm
Bebi Hatchiyack wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:36 pm
nickzambuto wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:14 pm Upa was considered a main cast member at one point. That got dropped quickly.
Do you have source of this claim ?
He made the covers and art portraying the main cast.
That’s still conjecture.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Melee_Sovereign » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:15 pm

Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:57 am The most popular one is Toriyama wanting Gero and android 19 to be the main villains of the arc, before changing his mind to androids 17 and 18, before changing his mind again to Cell.
His editor convinced him to do all this. This is a pretty normal thing that happens behind the scenes of any TV series.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by WittyUsername » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:12 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:35 pm Gohan vs. Super Buu was going to be the final battle in the series. I'm surprised that no one mentioned that yet.
Was it? I heard that before, but it usually seemed to come from people who claimed that Toriyama was forced to make Goku the hero again because of fan outrage.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:27 pm

I remember that Toriyama said that he intended to put Gohan into the leading role, but it didn’t work out. Given how the build up to his training with Elder Kaioshin turn out, I could have seen it happening.
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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Matches Malone » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:31 pm

Melee_Sovereign wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:15 pm
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:57 am The most popular one is Toriyama wanting Gero and android 19 to be the main villains of the arc, before changing his mind to androids 17 and 18, before changing his mind again to Cell.
His editor convinced him to do all this. This is a pretty normal thing that happens behind the scenes of any TV series.
I know, but I'd still like to know what Toriyama had originally planned on doing.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by WittyUsername » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:13 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:27 pm I remember that Toriyama said that he intended to put Gohan into the leading role, but it didn’t work out. Given how the build up to his training with Elder Kaioshin turn out, I could have seen it happening.
As far as I know, Toriyama’s decision to put Goku back in the leading role happened fairly early on in the Boo arc.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by FoolsGil » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

WittyUsername wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:25 pm Speaking of DBE, there’s also the rejected script that Ben Ramsey wrote.

http://thedaoofdragonball.com/pdfs/drag ... script.pdf
Bit rough around the edges, very thirsty, but a lot better than what we got.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Aim » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:15 pm

Xeogran wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:42 pm Heck, I REMEMBER there being a thread on Kanzenshuu full of unused movie stuff, but I can't find it now.
Turles was supposed to have some different henchmen for one, there was even a scan of it.

Another one I know of is that Z Movie 12 was also supposed to have Cooler, Slug, Raditz and Nappa.
Doubt they would amount to anything though, not enough runtime to be a threat. Guess they didn't want to ruin their reputation :lol:
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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Xeogran » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:47 am

some DBZ Movie 8 edited scenes (bad quality though, if someone has better that'd be nice)

Differences: Piccolo still has his cape on, they're in different poses and with their auras on. Broly is drawn more detailed and closer to the screen.
Vegeta vs Broly was supposedly going to be longer. There's a scan showing a heavily damaged Vegeta attacking Broly, meaning he already had a faceoff with him earlier on. The art and poses are also completely different on both.
Then this shot which shows Broly walking through a Kamehameha like a boss:

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 am

Dragon Ball GT was originally intended to be set before EOZ. After meeting with Toriyama, it was decided that it should be its own thing instead set after EOZ.

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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:48 pm

Matches Malone wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 am Dragon Ball GT was originally intended to be set before EOZ. After meeting with Toriyama, it was decided that it should be its own thing instead set after EOZ.
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Re: Scrapped ideas that never come to be ?

Post by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:21 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:48 pm
Matches Malone wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:54 am Dragon Ball GT was originally intended to be set before EOZ. After meeting with Toriyama, it was decided that it should be its own thing instead set after EOZ.
Source?
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... interview/

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... -story-qa/

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