A Question About Namekian Assimilation/Fusion...

[Steven Bloodriver]

Would Piccolo fusing with Kami or Piccolo Daimaō instead of Nail in the Frieza Saga have made Piccolo equally to or stronger than the canon version of Piccolo had been after fusing with Nail?

[hugettehikari]

iirc it's outright stated by nail that if piccolo and kami were still fused, he most likely would have been able to completely destroy frieza easily, the android saga addresses this further with the concept of their original fused form having been one of the strongest beings in the known universe, comparable to or even above a super saiyan would have been theorized to be in terms of power at the time of the namek saga. the fusion between kami and piccolo works differently from normal namekian fusion because it's explicitly two halves of a whole having been separated and having their power split between them, recombining is what gave such a significant power increase because their original fused form was already on a much higher tier than most of anything that had ever been seen before in the series, a literal "super namekian" as they are referred to in-universe

just fusing with nail was able to allow piccolo to match frieza's second form, so I don't doubt his claims that piccolo would have been able to crush frieza even in his final form if he was still merged with kami when he arrived on namek, he most likely could have soloed the entire series up to android 17 and 18 if they had fused sooner given how much the power of their original form was hyped up

as for piccolo daimao, there's no real evidence that it would actually do anything worth noting within canon, piccolo was supposed to have inherited all of his power when he was first born, and unlike between piccolo and kami there's no "original form/power" to go back to with the two of them fused. he is also much weaker than nail was, so from my perspective it wouldn't accomplish much, i know supersonic warriors on the GBA has the two of them fused be on the same tier of power as super buu, but it's also based around the idea that piccolo is still "incomplete", something that's never remotely hinted towards anywhere else in the franchise

[TobyS]

Piccolo Daimao can't exist at the same time as Piccolo, he's both a reincarnation AND an offspring at the same time.

If there was time travel shenanigans it'd do less than Nail did for him as Piccolo Sr. is piss weak by Z standards, far weaker than even Kami, who has the excuse of being Piccolos other half.

[Anonymous Friend]

iirc it's outright stated by nail that if piccolo and kami were still fused, he most likely would have been able to completely destroy frieza easily,

Is this the then current weaker form Freeza? Or one of his later transfermations? Triple Namekian Piccolo was pretty even with 17 and they both got wrecked buy a powered up Imperfect Cell.

[hugettehikari]

iirc it's outright stated by nail that if piccolo and kami were still fused, he most likely would have been able to completely destroy frieza easily,

Is this the then current weaker form Freeza? Or one of his later transfermations? Triple Namekian Piccolo was pretty even with 17 and they both got wrecked buy a powered up Imperfect Cell.

nail wasn't expecting to provide nearly as much of a boost to piccolo's power as he would have gotten (theoretically, since we don't actually know and neither would he, of course) if he was still fused with kami, and it put him at much more than double what nail knew of frieza's power from their fight earlier, since frieza was massively holding back

i think it's a reasonable assumption in-universe that kamiccolo would have absolutely crushed any form of frieza, especially since his original "super namekian" power was directly compared to what a theoretical super saiyan's power would have been like and both being stated as "the only thing that could defeat frieza". while he may have powered up beyond what anyone could have reasonably imagined at the time all of these statements were made, there's no actual evidence in the story that this wouldn't have been true, kamiccolo is just made out to be that powerful in-universe, and their merger in the android arc already put him far past any existing super saiyan at the time despite them having had a sizeable power advantage over piccolo previously

[ZombieVito]

iirc it's outright stated by nail that if piccolo and kami were still fused, he most likely would have been able to completely destroy frieza easily,

Is this the then current weaker form Freeza? Or one of his later transfermations? Triple Namekian Piccolo was pretty even with 17 and they both got wrecked buy a powered up Imperfect Cell.

Nail never knew Freeza could transform.