Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza in terms of growth potential?
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Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza in terms of growth potential?
Could it be true whatever training Freeza does, be it regular training, or in Time Chamber, Cell will always be stronger if he would be alive and does the exact same for the exact same time period? Like "Black Cell" would be dozens more stronger than Black Freeza due to not only Freeza's genes but to many Saiyan genes too.
Last edited by peterx on Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
Theoretically, Cell should be able to do anything Freeza can since they are genetically similar, but in a practical scenario, he has to make some effort.
Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
From a power scaling point of view, I would think so. Imperfect Cell was already much stronger than Mecha Frieza, and at his apex, Perfect Cell's power rivalled SSJ2 (perhaps not as strong, but close to it). Mecha Frieza (his strongest form until RoF) is killed by an untrained SSJ very easily.
However strength is always relative to telling the story and there's no hard and fast rules.
However strength is always relative to telling the story and there's no hard and fast rules.
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Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
I mean there is no proof that Cell could reach the golden or black forms of Frieza. His DNA may be too diluted.
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Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
He has Freeza's DNA plus the potential for zenkai boosts from his Saiyan DNA, so probably? Or maybe it's somewhere between the two, like he can advance faster than Saiyans but not faster than Freeza's race.
Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
Indeed, just like he was able to mimic the Super Saiyan transformations. Still theoretically, it should be possible to see Cell God and Cell Blue, not to mention Cell Blue Kaioh Ken ×20, Cell UE/UI, Orange Cell, and so on.
Everything is possible if the plot calls for it. Cell can absorb Buu, Buu can absorb Cell, they can use the potara to fuse. In the end, it depends on what Toriyama and friends decide to do, and they apparently prefer to focus on Freeza, even if Cell is literally a superset of him.
Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
It depends, based on what we've seen in-universe of how genetics tend to work, then yes. Hybrids >>> pure blooded.
But in real life, blending different DNA genes can lead to certain features not being inherited or not as strong as the source. So, Cell might not have all the perks of Freeza's DNA, only some of it or maybe not to Freeza's extent. Perhaps the presence of saiyan and/or namekian DNA makes Freeza's less dominant, stunting its potential.
This could be an excuse for keeping Freeza ahead of Cell from a genetic POV, but most likely scenario is the other way around. Specially because even if Cell is not able to go to town with Freeza's genes, he still has alien DNA to make up for that.
But in real life, blending different DNA genes can lead to certain features not being inherited or not as strong as the source. So, Cell might not have all the perks of Freeza's DNA, only some of it or maybe not to Freeza's extent. Perhaps the presence of saiyan and/or namekian DNA makes Freeza's less dominant, stunting its potential.
This could be an excuse for keeping Freeza ahead of Cell from a genetic POV, but most likely scenario is the other way around. Specially because even if Cell is not able to go to town with Freeza's genes, he still has alien DNA to make up for that.
Re: Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza?
Thanks for the replies, interesting!
I tought if you mix the "magical" capabilites of Freeza DNA and the Saiyans "explosive growth" DNA, this would be and extremely effective combo to get stronger if you train properly. Not Freeza, not even the Saiyans could outperform you anymore
I tought if you mix the "magical" capabilites of Freeza DNA and the Saiyans "explosive growth" DNA, this would be and extremely effective combo to get stronger if you train properly. Not Freeza, not even the Saiyans could outperform you anymore
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Re: Does Cell always be forever better than Freeza?
Lion and Tiger can reproduce Tigon or Liger which are hybrids. Those hybrids are bigger and stronger.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:31 am It depends, based on what we've seen in-universe of how genetics tend to work, then yes. Hybrids >>> pure blooded.
But in real life, blending different DNA genes can lead to certain features not being inherited or not as strong as the source. So, Cell might not have all the perks of Freeza's DNA, only some of it or maybe not to Freeza's extent. Perhaps the presence of saiyan and/or namekian DNA makes Freeza's less dominant, stunting its potential.
This could be an excuse for keeping Freeza ahead of Cell from a genetic POV, but most likely scenario is the other way around. Specially because even if Cell is not able to go to town with Freeza's genes, he still has alien DNA to make up for that.
Then there is the Liliger and Tiliger hybrid from Tigon or Liger.
Cell regeneration is superior than Piccolo
Cell Zenkai still gets Zenkai, something Universe 7 no longer gets. Cell Zenkai are huge. Cell can turn giant like Piccolo or Saiyan Oozaru form.
Cell can reproduce like a Namekian although from his tail.
Cell can survive in space like Freeza.
I see no reason why Cell can't have Gold or Black form like Freeza, lets not forget Cell has never trained a day in his life. Plus we know if Cell acquire someone updated DNA, he can gain their skills like how he got Instant Transmission.
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Re: Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza in terms of growth potential?
Cell could do press ups for 4 days and would have the power to one shot Whis
Re: Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza in terms of growth potential?
he would have his own form like crimson cell or something bet if toei decides to use him again for a future super arc after cell max.
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Re: Will Cell always and forever be better than Freeza in terms of growth potential?
Here are the things Cell does better than the DNA he got:
Able to regenerate from just 1 cell, even without a head. Namekians needs their head unharmed.
Able to reproduce kids as strong as himself. Daimao Piccolo kids were weaker than himself.
Able to get huge like a Namekians but with a power increase. Namekian increasing size doesn't change one power level.
Able to get huge Zenkai without healing. Saiyan they need to be near death and then heal to get a power up.
Able to get increase his muscles like SSJ Grade 2 and SSJ Grade 3.
Able to survive as 1 single cell, making him more durable than Freeza.
Able to regenerate from just 1 cell, even without a head. Namekians needs their head unharmed.
Able to reproduce kids as strong as himself. Daimao Piccolo kids were weaker than himself.
Able to get huge like a Namekians but with a power increase. Namekian increasing size doesn't change one power level.
Able to get huge Zenkai without healing. Saiyan they need to be near death and then heal to get a power up.
Able to get increase his muscles like SSJ Grade 2 and SSJ Grade 3.
Able to survive as 1 single cell, making him more durable than Freeza.