Dragon Ball and the Paramount Warner Discovery Merger.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I was very careful considering what the thread for this month could be. Warner and Viacom are both companies with good relations to Toei and I want to ask people what your ideas and hopes for this hypothetical scenario.

[VegettoEX]

What do you mean “thread for this month”?

What does this merger have to do with Dragon Ball at all?

Do you have any respective/relevant/helpful prompt to get things going? I don’t even know what you could possibly be talking about.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Sorry I was a bit tired and wanted to make the thread before going to be. I think The merger (Which at this point is hypothetical and not set in stone, wish I had been clearer in the title) could give Toei a major unified ally to work with, Nickelodeon's ratings are low but airing Dragon Ball which is a show that has always done well in reruns and would pull Nick out of its slump. DBZKai used to do 600k viewers for Nicktoons. And while I know that's impossible now if any of the DB shows aired on Nick now they could pull 250k 300k.

There are thousands of possibilities and I just mentioned the ones that came to mind being this tired.

[Dragon ball master]

I think you should be talking about the hulu and disney + murger more because hulu has dragon ball and if they're merging then Dragon ball must be on Disney+. Besides they already have blue dragon on Disney +

[Basaku]

I think you should be talking about the hulu and disney + murger more because hulu has dragon ball and if they're merging then Dragon ball must be on Disney+. Besides they already have blue dragon on Disney +

Agree. I see more prospects here (I expect Daima to debut on + as well, at least in US). Total speculation: if Disney ever wanted their answer to live-action One Piece success then now they have the perfect oppurtunity with DB. They got the means and resources for a high-budget adaptation and the animated original is already on their platform, with the full Hulu app merger only boosting the reach of potential DB audience

[Cure Dragon 255]

What do you mean “thread for this month”?

What does this merger have to do with Dragon Ball at all?

Do you have any respective/relevant/helpful prompt to get things going? I don’t even know what you could possibly be talking about.

The monthly thread means that I made a promise to stop the constant barrage of threads I used to make and now make only one a month.

Also on Disney Plus, that's covered in my "Bidding War for Dragon Ball" thread. But the possibility of 2 of Toei biggest Allies (Toei does a lot of work with Viacom outside of the USA, not just Nicktoons) joining together could mean something.

And Dragon Ball is airing a lot in Latin America thanks to Adult Swim.

[MasenkoHA]

I think you should be talking about the hulu and disney + murger more because hulu has dragon ball and if they're merging then Dragon ball must be on Disney+. Besides they already have blue dragon on Disney +

Agree. I see more prospects here (I expect Daima to debut on + as well, at least in US). Total speculation: if Disney ever wanted their answer to live-action One Piece success then now they have the perfect oppurtunity with DB. They got the means and resources for a high-budget adaptation and the animated original is already on their platform, with the full Hulu app merger only boosting the reach of potential DB audience

It would be a lot smarter to put it on Disney+ as families are way more likely to have it and thus kids would be more likely able to watch Daima.

I see Toei and Crunchyroll streaming it on Crunchyroll's own app though.

[Basaku]

It would be a lot smarter to put it on Disney+ as families are way more likely to have it and thus kids would be more likely able to watch Daima.

By the end of March its suppoused to merge into a single app anyway but I'm still not sure whether a Disney+sub will automatically include all Hulu VOD content by then or not. Regardless, they will likely continue shifting things around throught the year and they will own 100% of Hulu and may very well move DB fully under Disney brand umbrella and just leave Hulu brand exclusively for the actual adult dramas/Kardashians nonsense. Or delete the Hulu brand completly

[MasenkoHA]

It would be a lot smarter to put it on Disney+ as families are way more likely to have it and thus kids would be more likely able to watch Daima.

It'll one single merged app by the end of March so yep, it will happen regardless.

Is Crunchyroll merging with them too? I thought it was just Hulu and Disney Plus?

[Basaku]

It would be a lot smarter to put it on Disney+ as families are way more likely to have it and thus kids would be more likely able to watch Daima.

It'll one single merged app by the end of March so yep, it will happen regardless.

Is Crunchyroll merging with them too? I thought it was just Hulu and Disney Plus?

No no, Crunchy belongs to Sony, I was only talking DB prospects at the new merged Disney-Hulu (a single Disney-Hulu app in March, already out in Beta), may have phrased it confusingly

[MasenkoHA]

It'll one single merged app by the end of March so yep, it will happen regardless.

Is Crunchyroll merging with them too? I thought it was just Hulu and Disney Plus?

No no, Crunchy belongs to Sony, I was only talking DB prospects at the new merged Disney-Hulu, may have phrased it confusingly

Oh gotcha.

I mean what Hulu already has will be on Disney Plus (so subbed DB and GT and dubbed Super and Kai) and I agree it would just be for the best to put Daima on there as well.

But will Crunchyroll and Toei put it on there? We'll see

[Basaku]

Oh gotcha.

I mean what Hulu already has will be on Disney Plus (so subbed DB and GT and dubbed Super and Kai) and I agree it would just be for the best to put Daima on there as well.

But will Crunchyroll and Toei put it on there? We'll see

Yeah but I'm not sure whether the base D+ sub will automatically give you the base Hulu content (minus say, Live TV channels) or will that still be another 2$ extra or something and whether it will be possible to sub only Hulu content without the base D+ stuff. I edited my previous post.

We'll see what happens with Daima but if Disney gets interested then they obviously can outspend Sony/Crunchy tenfold. Or perhaps Disney will just get dub rights and Crunchy will get the subs, would make sense audiences-wise

Lord this thread reminds me how much I hate the modern streaming era and Excel spreadsheets u need to keep track of all this nonsense where which show is and how can you access it...

[Cure Dragon 255]

I am so glad this thread is thriving and people are posting and discussing. Didnt seem that way at first.

[MasenkoHA]

[. Or perhaps Disney will just get dub rights and Crunchy will get the subs, would make sense audiences-wise

That is totally possible. And pretty much what happened with Super (with Hulu getting the dub a while after it finished airing on Adult Swim and Crunchy only having the subs still afaik). I could see that as a very likely scenario

Lord this thread reminds me how much I hate the modern streaming era and Excel spreadsheets u need to keep track of all this nonsense where which show is and how can you access it...

It is extremely annoying and a big reason why I'm back on physical media for the most part

[Basaku]

It is extremely annoying and a big reason why I'm back on physical media for the most part

Yup. I may have a second look at streaming in 5 years or so after it consolidates some more and we stop having these massive content shakeups every other week across the board.

The whole thing is interesing for Toei and DB's future though. Toei was rather resistant to the streaming era for as long as they could and I get it, but even they can't deny anymore that it's simply the future content consumption, at least for the majority of customers. IMO the time is coming for them to pick their partner in crime to play the long game and access their resources - esp now that Netflix is pushing for anime productio which well, may quickly threathen Toei and other japanese studios' long-established position. So either they hit base 3 in bed with Netflix after that liveaction 1P deal, or... well Disney would be a good bet and a good fit for them. Dragon Ball in Disney parks? Yup. Disney's global endless cash vault and reach? Yup even better than Netflix. The question is if Disney is interested in this direction...

WBD(+Paramount) could work too esp given WB's long animation history. Toei got ties and history with both WB and Disney. Crunchyroll is fine and popular but... it will always be a niche platform and Sony is not interested in expanding neither it or creating their own rival broad-content streaming app so yeah, Toei needs to look far beyond Crunchyroll's limited reach

[Hellspawn28]

The merger got rejected and this has nothing to do with DB.

[Cure Dragon 255]

The merger got rejected and this has nothing to do with DB.

I think the first point is sound but the second isnt. Dragon Ball has been an Killer App for Warner for YEARS. Now Adult Swim Latin America airs almost NOTHING but DBZ, having the companies merge and have channels blip out of existance would be a major thing to discuss and I wanted to see what people thought about it.

I agree the thread is pointless in that the merger didnt happen but it would definitely have something to do with Dragon Ball. And there are so many topics that dont even pretend to be about Dragon Ball and are tolerated anyway because we talk about Dragon Ball in it as a tangent. Like that One Piece thread. It's title and premise HAVE NOTHING to do with Dragon Ball.

[Basaku]

The merger got rejected and this has nothing to do with DB.

Well in the context of WB/Paramount merger maybe not directly at the moment but I think the larger topic of DB's future in streaming, possibly on WB/Paramount's platform too, is an interesting topic and a and very current/immediate issue. At least for me

[Cure Dragon 255]

Thanks for everyone who took the topic seriously and commented on it. I am glad THE ONLY THREAD I will make in the month didnt flop.