Yeah, a thing that Toriyama was very good at was setting up a fight and living up to it in some way, and creating cool twists and turns to keep things interesting in the meantime.Basaku wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:44 pm Ohhh this this this! I think it's one of the main aspects that bother me. Back in peak Freeza/Cell sagas a fight could also mean Bulma sneaking out to do something else and completly change the plot mid-way through the fight. Or Krillin destroying the remote controller. With Moro/Granolah, I found myself often just quickly glancing at combat panels and skipping to the dialogues as I never expected anything interesting to happen during the fights, just a fight for the sake of a fight. Might have been well drawn as Toyo improved a lot, but still nothing more.
One of my favorite examples of this is Vegeta's brief stint as Namek's protagonist, where he was trying to avoid Freeza and getting the dragon balls, and using whatever to his advantage such as Freeza's incapacity to sense ki, which, he kept using even after being captured by Zarbon, since he pretended to escape, was still on the ship, caused another distraction, threw the dragon balls away and then just, left the ship and swan so he wouldn't get caught by flying.
Stuff like that, is awesome, and gives the stories more qualities than just Goku punching a villain in the face.
The lack of such things is why I overall think that Toriyama written movies aren't that interesting, first half is just setting up a fight, then the fight happens, with very few weird twists going on meanwhile... I think the reason why the movies are like that is simply because Toriyama isn't improvising, because when improvising, he may come up with stuff that may create plot holes, it may also keep the plot fun in some way.
That's just gross, whether one likes Toyotaro or not, he still deserves some vacation from work, just like anyone else.Yup. Which is why I couldn't phantom some... YouTubers complaining that Toyo took like 2 month vacation or something. Like literally WTF. This is entertainment business and cartoons, nobody's working overtime here to secure "world peace". And even world peace negotiators SHOULD have vacations too...
Like, shit, even doctors go on vacations lol.
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