Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

[super michael]

Demon Slayer looks like it is really popular and that anime is really good. It did very good in cinema.

DBS Anime writing was awful at times, the sad thing is it happened way to often. No other anime will copy or take inspiration from DBS.
Many anime took inspiration and ideas from Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, as for GT I don't know.

Goku is a great character, however he is awful in DBS. He is the main character, yet he is written really bad.

[JulieYBM]

That's all subjective you know. For me and many other people, DB franchise stands at the top.
Most of these other anime wouldn't exist without it either...

Most anime wouldn't exist without Kimba The White Lion, including Dragon Ball itself.
Therefore, Kimba The White Lion is superior to Dragon Ball and every other anime combined.

...see how flawed that logic is?
As influential as Dragon Ball is/was, having Z's/GT's/Super's level of writing today is unacceptable.

Yet Super was one of the most popular, ground-breaking, and beloved Anime of the 2010s.

You are sorely mistaken if you seriously think that Zoomer and Gen. Alpha kids care about writing.

The fact that they love trash like Jujusu Kaisen is proof of it. DBS clears its competition.

What makes Jujutsu Kaisen 'trash'? Putting aside the awful production schedule—something that Dragon Ball Super very much shares—Jujutsu Kaisen was still are far better constructed set of seasons compared to Dragon Ball Super, and, most importantly, had way more entertaining characterization going on for a larger number of episodes.

Also, Jujutsu Kaisen had old man yaoi, and is therefore automatically the superior series.

[super michael]

Most anime wouldn't exist without Kimba The White Lion, including Dragon Ball itself.
Therefore, Kimba The White Lion is superior to Dragon Ball and every other anime combined.

...see how flawed that logic is?
As influential as Dragon Ball is/was, having Z's/GT's/Super's level of writing today is unacceptable.

Yet Super was one of the most popular, ground-breaking, and beloved Anime of the 2010s.

You are sorely mistaken if you seriously think that Zoomer and Gen. Alpha kids care about writing.

The fact that they love trash like Jujusu Kaisen is proof of it. DBS clears its competition.

What makes Jujutsu Kaisen 'trash'? Putting aside the awful production schedule—something that Dragon Ball Super very much shares—Jujutsu Kaisen was still are far better constructed set of seasons compared to Dragon Ball Super, and, most importantly, had way more entertaining characterization going on for a larger number of episodes.

Also, Jujutsu Kaisen had old man yaoi, and is therefore automatically the superior series.

I like Jujutsu Kaisen also, the story, world build, characters, training, etc, they are all good. I only watched the anime, so I can't comment on the manga.
I wonder what happens when he eats all the fingers.

Dragon Quest Dai Great Adventure is also another great anime. Then there is New Gate another great anime, although it is still new with only 4 episodes.

Solo Leveling is another great anime.

[WittyUsername]

“Groundbreaking” is not one of the words I would use to describe DBS.

[MasenkoHA]

Yeah a series thriving off "Remember this thing?" and had notoriously shit animation in the early episodes that was such a laughing stock it had to be fixed for the blu-ray is not what any rational person would call "groundbreaking"

[capsulecorp]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

[JulieYBM]

All anime are promotional tools for something else.

That being said, the cardinal sin of Super is that it's production committee members did not provide its creative staff with the time and resources necessary to create something more groundbreaking.

[Cure Dragon 255]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

"...groundbreaking..."
capsulecorp- Kanzenshuu Poster

Thanks to the magic of quote mining you did just now.

[SupremeKai25]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge public events.

Oh, is there another anime in the 2010s that was live-streamed to thousands of people that I wasn't aware of?

Considering how Broly, which released only a few months after the ending of the Anime, was one of the highest-grossing Japanese anime movies of all time, the DBS anime more than lived up to its job.

[super michael]

All anime are promotional tools for something else.

That being said, the cardinal sin of Super is that it's production committee members did not provide its creative staff with the time and resources necessary to create something more groundbreaking.

True the staff should have been given more time to make the anime and comes up with ideas for the episode.

Although Toei really liked writing Goku as a brainless dumb character. Even in DBS Hero the little time he showed up, he had to be dumb on something that he was a expert.
This is something Toei never fixed.

Chi Chi was horrible DBS, all she did was get in the way and be selfish.
Boo all the time sleeping, letting everyone down.
Goten and Trunk luckily they fixed them in DBS Super Hero, but in the anime they were treated so bad.


Lets not forget that a certain episode got the entire anime removed temporarily, most likely due to Master Roshi. Either in the episode of Tenshinhan with his dojo or Master Roshi and Puar.

[MasenkoHA]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge public events.

Oh, is there another anime in the 2010s that was live-streamed to thousands of people that I wasn't aware of?

Considering how Broly, which released only a few months after the ending of the Anime, was one of the highest-grossing Japanese anime movies of all time, the DBS anime more than lived up to its job.

All of this is 100 hundred percent because of the popularity of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (more so the latter). If Dragon Ball Super was a brand new series that wasn't part of an existing well beloved franchise absolutely nothing you mentioned would have happened.

It's riding the wave of nostalgia. That's not groundbreaking. You might as well say Star Wars The Force Awakens was groundbreaking

Goten and Trunk luckily they fixed them in DBS Super Hero, but in the anime they were treated so bad.

Fixed them how?!? They fucked up their fusion dance for a cheap gag of fighting Cell Max as Fat Gotenks. Like?

Lets not forget that a certain episode got the entire anime removed temporarily, most likely due to Master Roshi. Either in the episode of Tenshinhan with his dojo or Master Roshi and Puar.

Got the anime pulled temporarily on Cartoon Network Argentia. It wasn't a worldwide thing or even in its home country. That also had far more to do with changing standards of the time than Dragon Ball Super itself as original Dragon Ball had featured far worse content in that regard.

[super michael]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge public events.

Oh, is there another anime in the 2010s that was live-streamed to thousands of people that I wasn't aware of?

Considering how Broly, which released only a few months after the ending of the Anime, was one of the highest-grossing Japanese anime movies of all time, the DBS anime more than lived up to its job.

All of this is 100 hundred percent because of the popularity of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (more so the latter). If Dragon Ball Super was a brand new series that wasn't part of an existing well beloved franchise absolutely nothing you mentioned would have happened.

It's riding the wave of nostalgia. That's not groundbreaking. You might as well say Star Wars The Force Awakens was groundbreaking

Goten and Trunk luckily they fixed them in DBS Super Hero, but in the anime they were treated so bad.

Fixed them how?!? They fucked up their fusion dance for a cheap gag of fighting Cell Max as Fat Gotenks. Like?

Lets not forget that a certain episode got the entire anime removed temporarily, most likely due to Master Roshi. Either in the episode of Tenshinhan with his dojo or Master Roshi and Puar.

Got the anime pulled temporarily on Cartoon Network Argentia. It wasn't a worldwide thing or even in its home country. That also had far more to do with changing standards of the time than Dragon Ball Super itself as original Dragon Ball had featured far worse content in that regard.

Seeing Goten and Trunk being welcomed to fight and then fuse is a huge improvement. Sure it isn't the best fix, since we never saw them do a proper fusion in their perfect fused state.
However compared to how they treated in DBS, being that they were treated like unwelcomed pest, who are not allowed to join any combat, train with strong people and keep secrets from them, DBS Super Hero is a huge improvement.
Heck Trunks only training partner was either Pilaf or Goten.

I forgot to mention it was in one country that got the anime pulled temporarily. Master Roshi did far worse in DB than in DBS.

[Jiren The Alpha]

Spoiler:

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge public events.

Oh, is there another anime in the 2010s that was live-streamed to thousands of people that I wasn't aware of?

Considering how Broly, which released only a few months after the ending of the Anime, was one of the highest-grossing Japanese anime movies of all time, the DBS anime more than lived up to its job.

All of this is 100 hundred percent because of the popularity of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (more so the latter). If Dragon Ball Super was a brand new series that wasn't part of an existing well beloved franchise absolutely nothing you mentioned would have happened.

It's riding the wave of nostalgia. That's not groundbreaking. You might as well say Star Wars The Force Awakens was groundbreaking

Goten and Trunk luckily they fixed them in DBS Super Hero, but in the anime they were treated so bad.

Fixed them how?!? They fucked up their fusion dance for a cheap gag of fighting Cell Max as Fat Gotenks. Like?

Lets not forget that a certain episode got the entire anime removed temporarily, most likely due to Master Roshi. Either in the episode of Tenshinhan with his dojo or Master Roshi and Puar.

Got the anime pulled temporarily on Cartoon Network Argentia. It wasn't a worldwide thing or even in its home country. That also had far more to do with changing standards of the time than Dragon Ball Super itself as original Dragon Ball had featured far worse content in that regard.

And as we all know, that is also the reason why Evolution and GT was so successful.......wait

[MasenkoHA]

Spoiler:

Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge public events.

Oh, is there another anime in the 2010s that was live-streamed to thousands of people that I wasn't aware of?

Considering how Broly, which released only a few months after the ending of the Anime, was one of the highest-grossing Japanese anime movies of all time, the DBS anime more than lived up to its job.

All of this is 100 hundred percent because of the popularity of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z (more so the latter). If Dragon Ball Super was a brand new series that wasn't part of an existing well beloved franchise absolutely nothing you mentioned would have happened.

It's riding the wave of nostalgia. That's not groundbreaking. You might as well say Star Wars The Force Awakens was groundbreaking

Goten and Trunk luckily they fixed them in DBS Super Hero, but in the anime they were treated so bad.

Fixed them how?!? They fucked up their fusion dance for a cheap gag of fighting Cell Max as Fat Gotenks. Like?

Lets not forget that a certain episode got the entire anime removed temporarily, most likely due to Master Roshi. Either in the episode of Tenshinhan with his dojo or Master Roshi and Puar.

Got the anime pulled temporarily on Cartoon Network Argentia. It wasn't a worldwide thing or even in its home country. That also had far more to do with changing standards of the time than Dragon Ball Super itself as original Dragon Ball had featured far worse content in that regard.

And as we all know, that is also the reason why Evolution and GT was so successful.......wait

GT was successful at the time even if it suffered from franchise fatigue. It did worse than the previous two series it didn't bomb. Also lololol FujiTv wishes Dragon Ball Super had the ratings that GT did.

And Evolution was hated for changing the material people hold near and dear to their childhood. What a terrible comparison.

False equivalences are fun!

[capsulecorp]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

"...groundbreaking..."
capsulecorp- Kanzenshuu Poster

Thanks to the magic of quote mining you did just now.

hoisted by my own petard!

[Gashaponista]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

It's weird to see it that way, considering that the DBS manga was born as a promotional product for the anime.

[JulieYBM]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

It's weird to see it that way, considering that the DBS manga was born as a promotional product for the anime.

Eh, at the end of the day it's all the same thing.

[capsulecorp]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

It's weird to see it that way, considering that the DBS manga was born as a promotional product for the anime.

I think that theory was put to bed when the manga continued on past the finale of the anime, but yeah, it doesn't really matter and can be "different things for different people".

[AliTheZombie13]

Groundbrakingly the only entry Toriyama has ever openly acknowledged was bad, other than Evolution and BoG's initial draft. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This isn't subjective, Toei's writers themselves have admitted in interview they've done a shoddy job writing Super and felt the audience had lost trust in them by the final arc. It's okay to like Super, but it had glaring issues, most of them a result of the staff being mistreated.

[Gashaponista]

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films.

It's weird to see it that way, considering that the DBS manga was born as a promotional product for the anime.

I think that theory was put to bed when the manga continued on past the finale of the anime, but yeah, it doesn't really matter and can be "different things for different people".

It's not a theory if it was officially announced that way in 2015. In any case, the fact that the manga has become something else and has followed its own path does not change the reason for its origin.

The same will happen with Daima, if it has any manga adaptation only the newbies of the future will mistake the printed version as the basis of the franchise.