SSJ3 Goku, Full Power, Versus Buu, etc.
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SSJ3 Goku, Full Power, Versus Buu, etc.
Was SSJ3 Goku at full power when he fought kid Buu?
Well then it's possible he could've been suppressing his power in order to try and maintain the form for longer.Amigo Ten wrote:For most of it, probably, yeah. As much as he could have been anyway. He never mentions anything about being weaker than he expected, he was just surprised that he couldn't maintain the form for as long as he thought.
I don't think we'll be able to know for sure unless there are any lines in the manga to suggest it.
I was watching the fight last night, and as I recollect, Gokû 'was trying too hard to look cool', by supposedly not going all out for the killing blow ASAP. He told Vegeta he needed a minute to rev his ki up to full strength to end it, but his stamina gave before he could.
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He seemed to be fighting at a level where he could "toy" with Boo for a little while. He was playing with him really, sure he got pretty brutal a few times, and he was suprised by a lot of Boo's techniques, but he was just making sure to buy time for Trunks, because of his restrictions (and as we find out later, his intentions).
I think he was forced to hold back, and if he wanted he could've pumelled Boo.
I think he was forced to hold back, and if he wanted he could've pumelled Boo.
Uh...wrong fight, friend.Rory wrote:He seemed to be fighting at a level where he could "toy" with Boo for a little while. He was playing with him really, sure he got pretty brutal a few times, and he was suprised by a lot of Boo's techniques, but he was just making sure to buy time for Trunks, because of his restrictions (and as we find out later, his intentions).
I think he was forced to hold back, and if he wanted he could've pumelled Boo.
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Re: SSJ3 Goku, Full Power, Versus Buu, etc.
No, he was almost at full power but he needed to focus his ki a little more to become powerful enough to defeat kid buu (or so he thought).CashmanX wrote:Was SSJ3 Goku at full power when he fought kid Buu?
However, his living stamina was not as big as his dead stamina, so the transformation gave out before being able to focus.
When Vegeta asks him to stop messing around and fight all out, he claims that he is giving it his all, but Buu won't give him time to gather ki. I always thought the, "maybe I tried to look too cool," comment was a reference to how he told Rou Kaioshin that they'd handle it without fusion.
"The Potara could have done it. Maybe I tried to act too cool... But I thought this way would be better!"
So I guess he wasn't at 'full power' as such, but it's not like he was holding back on purpose.
"The Potara could have done it. Maybe I tried to act too cool... But I thought this way would be better!"
So I guess he wasn't at 'full power' as such, but it's not like he was holding back on purpose.
Whoops! My bad!JulieYBM wrote:Uh...wrong fight, friend.Rory wrote:He seemed to be fighting at a level where he could "toy" with Boo for a little while. He was playing with him really, sure he got pretty brutal a few times, and he was suprised by a lot of Boo's techniques, but he was just making sure to buy time for Trunks, because of his restrictions (and as we find out later, his intentions).
I think he was forced to hold back, and if he wanted he could've pumelled Boo.
Then no, absolutely not. His mortal body could no longer contain his full power(that's how epic Goku is), a Super Saiyan 3 seems to be simply too much for one body to take. Even when he tried to rest while Vegeta fought, he was handicapped by Super Saiyan 3. He was trying to gather ki, but the form took too much away from him just by being in it.
To sum it up, he couldn't fight all out, even if he tried.
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Goku wouldn't want to fuse again or he'd have a polygamy with Bulma and Chi Chi. Both would have to sleep with Vegetto every. Unless Bulma and Chi Chi potara fuse which is a bonus for Vegetto.Bussani wrote:When Vegeta asks him to stop messing around and fight all out, he claims that he is giving it his all, but Buu won't give him time to gather ki. I always thought the, "maybe I tried to look too cool," comment was a reference to how he told Rou Kaioshin that they'd handle it without fusion.
"The Potara could have done it. Maybe I tried to act too cool... But I thought this way would be better!"
So I guess he wasn't at 'full power' as such, but it's not like he was holding back on purpose.
Besides, Vegeta would never want to permanently fuse him again. And Goku wanted to give Vegeta another shot, hopless that may be.
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The part in quotes in my post is actually from the manga. Goku probably would have fused again if necessary, but he didn't think it was necessary any more. Like he said, he thought not fusing was better. Vegeta would have been against it, of course.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Goku wouldn't want to fuse again or he'd have a polygamy with Bulma and Chi Chi. Both would have to sleep with Vegetto every. Unless Bulma and Chi Chi potara fuse which is a bonus for Vegetto.Bussani wrote:When Vegeta asks him to stop messing around and fight all out, he claims that he is giving it his all, but Buu won't give him time to gather ki. I always thought the, "maybe I tried to look too cool," comment was a reference to how he told Rou Kaioshin that they'd handle it without fusion.
"The Potara could have done it. Maybe I tried to act too cool... But I thought this way would be better!"
So I guess he wasn't at 'full power' as such, but it's not like he was holding back on purpose.
Besides, Vegeta would never want to permanently fuse him again. And Goku wanted to give Vegeta another shot, hopless that may be.
As for Vegetto having to sleep with both... I don't think sex ever factors into Goku's decisions.
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I think he started out at full-power against Kid Boo, but gradually lost Chi as the battle progressed. He did state he'd have to go all-out from the beginning to win. I see no reason why he would power-up to anything less than full-power.
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Goku said he could have destroy Kid Buu quite easily but he wanted to give Vegeta a shot too. Vegeta wanted to fight Buu in the first place. Vegeta always loses to every main villian miserably. Goku thought he should have some glorious battle.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I think he started out at full-power against Kid Boo, but gradually lost Chi as the battle progressed. He did state he'd have to go all-out from the beginning to win. I see no reason why he would power-up to anything less than full-power.
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He was going all out from the beginning, but claimed that Buu wasn't giving him a chance to 'rev it up to full'. So he was fighting all out to the best of his ability, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was at 'full power'.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I think he started out at full-power against Kid Boo, but gradually lost Chi as the battle progressed. He did state he'd have to go all-out from the beginning to win. I see no reason why he would power-up to anything less than full-power.
Actually, Vegeta implies that Goku never intended to give him a turn (since he'd just get killed), and by that point Vegeta himself had realized he didn't have a chance. That's when he told Goku to not worry about him and stop holding back, to which Goku says he wasn't holding back. That's when Vegeta steps in to buy him time to gather ki...which ultimately doesn't work anyway.DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Goku said he could have destroy Kid Buu quite easily but he wanted to give Vegeta a shot too. Vegeta wanted to fight Buu in the first place. Vegeta always loses to every main villian miserably. Goku thought he should have some glorious battle.
SSJ3 has a lot of flaws.
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This is how it went down in the manga.
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Vegeta: Kakarrot.
Goku: V-Vegeta..! You wanna switch already?! Gimmie a minute!
Vegeta: ...Heh... Quit lying. You never planned to switch. You knew that I'd just get killed.
Goku: N-no way! I never...
Vegeta: Don't try to make me feel better. You're right. Boo is much stronger than I imagined. And so, Kakarrot... are you. Don't mind me. Finish him off! Build up your Chi with Super Saiyan 3, and you should be able to obliterate him!
Goku: Well... I've been tryin' to, but I haven't had the chance!
Vegeta: Eh?
Goku: I'd have to rev up for a while minute to get enough power!
Vegeta: A minute?!
Goku: ...Maybe I tried to act too cool... but I thought this would be better...!
Vegeta: You're not holding back for me?
Goku: He keeps draggin' in out! This little punk's havin' fun!
Vegeta: Then... I'll buy you that minute. Build up your Chi!!
Many pages later...
Goku: I don't get it...!! It shouldn't be like this!! I'm... I'm actually losing energy... *turns back to normal* Uh...!!
Couple pages later...
Goku: Darn it... It worked while I was dead... I guess it takes too much Chi to be Super Saiyan 3 while you're alive...
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So, no, Goku wasn't toying with Boo nor was he fighting at full power.
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Vegeta: Kakarrot.
Goku: V-Vegeta..! You wanna switch already?! Gimmie a minute!
Vegeta: ...Heh... Quit lying. You never planned to switch. You knew that I'd just get killed.
Goku: N-no way! I never...
Vegeta: Don't try to make me feel better. You're right. Boo is much stronger than I imagined. And so, Kakarrot... are you. Don't mind me. Finish him off! Build up your Chi with Super Saiyan 3, and you should be able to obliterate him!
Goku: Well... I've been tryin' to, but I haven't had the chance!
Vegeta: Eh?
Goku: I'd have to rev up for a while minute to get enough power!
Vegeta: A minute?!
Goku: ...Maybe I tried to act too cool... but I thought this would be better...!
Vegeta: You're not holding back for me?
Goku: He keeps draggin' in out! This little punk's havin' fun!
Vegeta: Then... I'll buy you that minute. Build up your Chi!!
Many pages later...
Goku: I don't get it...!! It shouldn't be like this!! I'm... I'm actually losing energy... *turns back to normal* Uh...!!
Couple pages later...
Goku: Darn it... It worked while I was dead... I guess it takes too much Chi to be Super Saiyan 3 while you're alive...
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So, no, Goku wasn't toying with Boo nor was he fighting at full power.