Do you completely disregard the movies?

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:27 am

mister yummy wrote:Movie 12, as per why Goku and Vegita are dead? They did it intentionally to fight in the 2nd Annoyoichi Budokai. Vegita was damned to hell because Yenma was having a bad day. Gohan's eyes...that's incredibly minor, and he's still mystic.

...So you're saying they committed suicide, with no way of being revived to fight in some tournament?...

...A-are you just kidding? Please tell me you are!...

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:42 am

Chou Gohan became Chou Gohan by trying to go Super Saiyan after having all that power unlocked. Maybe, like when going back to normal from Super Saiyan, Gohan can go back to normal, too. It isn't like he needs to have all of his power unlocked 24/7.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:50 am

Dragonball Movies? Nah.

Dragonball Z Movies? Hell yes.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:54 am

Kendamu wrote:Chou Gohan became Chou Gohan by trying to go Super Saiyan after having all that power unlocked. Maybe, like when going back to normal from Super Saiyan, Gohan can go back to normal, too. It isn't like he needs to have all of his power unlocked 24/7.

The way I saw it is similar. I think he's always 'normal' while mystic, but that doesn't mean his power has to be raised to full all the time. Kinda like the difference between Roshi relaxed and Roshi with gigantic muscles. It isn't a 'transformation' as such.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:01 am

Kendamu wrote:Chou Gohan became Chou Gohan by trying to go Super Saiyan after having all that power unlocked. Maybe, like when going back to normal from Super Saiyan, Gohan can go back to normal, too. It isn't like he needs to have all of his power unlocked 24/7.

Chou Gohan? As in "Super" Gohan? Is that the new fan term for "Saikyo no Gohan" now? Man, fandom is confusing.

Amigo Ten · Post by **Amigo Ten** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:05 am

I've been hearing "Chou" for years. Hardly seems new. I just go with with "ultimate".

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:29 am

Rory wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Chou Gohan became Chou Gohan by trying to go Super Saiyan after having all that power unlocked. Maybe, like when going back to normal from Super Saiyan, Gohan can go back to normal, too. It isn't like he needs to have all of his power unlocked 24/7.
Chou Gohan? As in "Super" Gohan? Is that the new fan term for "Saikyo no Gohan" now? Man, fandom is confusing.

It's not new. That fan term's been floating around for quite awhile. It just sounds a billion times better than "Mystic" to me.

Sin · Post by **Sin** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:08 am

I've heard of Chou Kamehameha I think.

Anyway I don't disregard the movies, they are enjoyable to watch and some have decent plots to them. I try to think of Dragonball Z as being on an open timeline where anything can fit in.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:22 am

Sin wrote:I've heard of Chou Kamehameha I think.

Anyway I don't disregard the movies, they are enjoyable to watch and some have decent plots to them. I try to think of Dragonball Z as being on an open timeline where anything can fit in.

Chou Kamehameha is a real term, though.

TVfan721 · Post by **TVfan721** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:47 am

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Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:08 pm

Kendamu wrote:
Rory wrote:
Kendamu wrote:Chou Gohan became Chou Gohan by trying to go Super Saiyan after having all that power unlocked. Maybe, like when going back to normal from Super Saiyan, Gohan can go back to normal, too. It isn't like he needs to have all of his power unlocked 24/7.
Chou Gohan? As in "Super" Gohan? Is that the new fan term for "Saikyo no Gohan" now? Man, fandom is confusing.
It's not new. That fan term's been floating around for quite awhile. It just sounds a billion times better than "Mystic" to me.

What's wrong with mystic? That sounds pretty cool too.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:06 pm

Kroni_Hunter wrote:
Kendamu wrote:
Rory wrote: Chou Gohan? As in "Super" Gohan? Is that the new fan term for "Saikyo no Gohan" now? Man, fandom is confusing.
It's not new. That fan term's been floating around for quite awhile. It just sounds a billion times better than "Mystic" to me.
What's wrong with mystic? That sounds pretty cool too.

It isn't so much the "cool" factor as it is that Gohan wasn't really mystical in any sort of way. He was just able to use his full potential power without having to transform. Words like "Super," "Ultimate," "Chou," or "Saikyou no..." have meaning that convey what Gohan was better than something like "Mystic" would.

SparkyPantsMcGee · Post by **SparkyPantsMcGee** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:51 pm

I ignore 1-4 as part of the Time line but you can easily squeeze the other ones in without too much trouble.

Ultimate_DB_Fan · Post by **Ultimate_DB_Fan** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:46 am

I guess I'll now ask a different version of the question: Does anyone disreguard the movies in the sense that you absolutely don't watch them?

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:01 am

It depends on the definition of disregard. I'm fully aware of how and why they were made, and that none of them were meant to be taken seriously as canon. So I disregard them as part of the main storyline, but regardless many of them are extremely enjoyable and I still watch them a lot ^^

sbk · Post by **sbk** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:09 am

"Do you completely disregard the movies?"

Yes, I find the movies very bad and often don't fit in the storyline.

Unless you count the Trunks and Bardock specials as movies, because those were actually good.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:56 am

I just consider the movies to be filler mini-sagas in other possible DBZ timelines, and by doing this I really enjoy them. Too bad the Garlic Junior Saga wasn't a movie and was instead a filler saga, I think if it was another movie it would be a lot better.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:20 pm

I always take Movies 5, 9, and 13 into consideration. But everything else is non-canon, imo.

tvfan721 wrote:What is so difficult to understand? 10 whole years pass between "He's Always Late" and "Granddaughter Pan", any number of plots could have taken place between those 10 years to explain why Goku and Vegeta are both dead. It's as simple as that. I'm sure the writers of this movie thought the same thing. I understand some people are really dedicated fans but some people are taking this movie thing way too seriously.

Uhh...is this post a joke?

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:00 pm

tvfan721 wrote:What is so difficult to understand? 10 whole years pass between "He's Always Late" and "Granddaughter Pan", any number of plots could have taken place between those 10 years to explain why Goku and Vegeta are both dead. It's as simple as that. I'm sure the writers of this movie thought the same thing. I understand some people are really dedicated fans but some people are taking this movie thing way too seriously.

It's implied Goku killed Majin Boo when he turned Super Saiyan 3 instead of buying time for Trunks. (Actually, I'm not even sure of that, but it's the most logical answer for why at least.)

No idea why they weren't wished back, unless Goku and Vegeta didn't want to be brought back.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:05 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:I guess I'll now ask a different version of the question: Does anyone disreguard the movies in the sense that you absolutely don't watch them?

No reason to.

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