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by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:08 am
linkdude20002001 wrote:Freeza, Freeza, Freeza, Freeza, Freeza, Freeza...
His under arms are pink, pink, pink! In his head he's sick, sick, sick!
Ahh, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought that.
But yeah, Freeza needs to be recasted. Anyone have any ideas for actors they'd like to see?
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by B » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:49 pm
Andrew Chandler. Anyone else is unacceptable. Kai dub will suck if he is not Freeza, fgsfds.
My opinion.
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by jjgp1112 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:46 pm
I'm probably gonna get lynched for suggesting this, but for the Ginyu Force intro, Funi should replace the insert song with a parody of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, that way English audiences will get the joke as easily as Japanese fans.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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by SSJ2bardock » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:07 pm
B wrote:Andrew Chandler. Anyone else is unacceptable. Kai dub will suck if he is not Freeza, fgsfds.
Yeah I know man, Linda Young totally ruined the Majin Buu arc for me in the dub.
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by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:16 pm
jjgp1112 wrote:I'm probably gonna get lynched for suggesting this, but for the Ginyu Force intro, Funi should replace the insert song with a parody of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, that way English audiences will get the joke as easily as Japanese fans.
No...just...no. The audience isn't stupid, they're going to get the joke.
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by B » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:16 pm
That's how bad it was, bro. Recast Freeza, save the show.
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by jjgp1112 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:19 pm
JulieYBM wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I'm probably gonna get lynched for suggesting this, but for the Ginyu Force intro, Funi should replace the insert song with a parody of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, that way English audiences will get the joke as easily as Japanese fans.
No...just...no. The audience isn't stupid, they're going to get the joke.
I think most American fans watching have no idea what Super Sentai is. But I'd bet if they played a parody of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, I think most fans would instantly get the joke.
I sure as hell didn't know why everyone was making a big deal out of the scene until I looked around here and everyone was saying that it reminded them of the Super Sentai theme. But if I and other American fans heard the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers theme playing in the background, we would probably love the scene.
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Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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by bkev » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:22 pm
Well, just like Power Rangers, there's been multiple themes for Sentai. I wouldn't be particularly against a change like that, but I think most would get the joke either way. Specially if they dubbed whatever it is they're saying.
[quote="Brakus"]For all the flack that FUNimation gets on this forum for their quote about DBZ, there's some modicum of truth to it: a 9-year-old is born every day. Or in some cases, "reborn". DBZ may be a kids' show, but it's been so close to so many hearts all over Japan, America, and quite possibly, even the world.[/quote]
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by jjgp1112 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:25 pm
bkev wrote:Well, just like Power Rangers, there's been multiple themes for Sentai. I wouldn't be particularly against a change like that, but I think most would get the joke either way. Specially if they dubbed whatever it is they're saying.
Well, there are a lot of Power Rangers themes, but I think that the only one that people remember is the first one.
I mainly would want the scene to be just as accessible to a US Audience as it is to a Japanese audience. To most of us, it would probably just be a purposefully cheesy scene, but for the Japanese fans, it's a little bit more special. So I think American fans should be able to get the special moment from that scene as well.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
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by B » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:27 pm
The song already sounds like Mighty Morphin' right when it starts. I'd rather they just dub the song and replace "tokusentai" with "Ginyu Force" or something.
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by SSJ2bardock » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:17 pm
Johnny Yong Bosch needs to be thrown into a redub somewhere on the Ginyu force for ironic purposes. Preferably Jheese.
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by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:39 pm
jjgp1112 wrote:JulieYBM wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I'm probably gonna get lynched for suggesting this, but for the Ginyu Force intro, Funi should replace the insert song with a parody of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, that way English audiences will get the joke as easily as Japanese fans.
No...just...no. The audience isn't stupid, they're going to get the joke.
I think most American fans watching have no idea what Super Sentai is. But I'd bet if they played a parody of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, I think most fans would instantly get the joke.
I sure as hell didn't know why everyone was making a big deal out of the scene until I looked around here and everyone was saying that it reminded them of the Super Sentai theme. But if I and other American fans heard the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers theme playing in the background, we would probably love the scene.
The scene has it's own merit. There is absolutely no need to change anything. This isn't the nineties anymore. Dubs are expected to be accurate, changing the music would be inaccurate.
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by linkdude20002001 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:56 pm
B wrote:The song already sounds like Mighty Morphin' right when it starts. I'd rather they just dub the song and replace "tokusentai" with "Ginyu Force" or something.
Since
Toku Sentai (Special Task Force) is based off
Super Sentai (the original Japanese version of
Power Rangers), it would make the most sence to call them the
Special Rangers. Plus, it makes them sound even
more lame! Hahaha! It's even the same amount of syllables!

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by SaiyamanMS » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:56 am
JulieYBM wrote:bkev wrote:Freeza, please! But to be honest, I think they'll only recast simply to avoid having to hire the people who've moved out of Texas. That would be Schemmel and Clarke, right? If anyone's to be recast it's Clarke - Sabat can actually imitate him pretty well as proved by the video games.
I don't believe Sabat actually voices Cell in any games. Clarke just records under an assumed name.
Well, Clarke played Scar in the original Fullmetal Alchemist series, and so far Scar is the only announced character for the new series to be recast other than Alphonse. (Al being recast only because Aaron Dismuke hit puberty.) If they haven't got him for FMA, I doubt they'll be able to get him for Dragon Ball Kai.
As for Schemmel... He'll definitely be one of the tougher ones to get due to being based in New York now, but for all intents and purposes he is
the English Goku. (Or perhaps, "Funimation Goku" would be more accurate with Corlett and Kelamis in the mix from years ago.) Because of that, I can see them going to special effort to get him.
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by Undercooked Sausage » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:00 am
JulieYBM wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I'm probably gonna get lynched for suggesting this, but for the Ginyu Force intro, Funi should replace the insert song with a parody of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, that way English audiences will get the joke as easily as Japanese fans.
No...just...no. The audience isn't stupid, they're going to get the joke.
I had no idea what the Super Sentai theme sounds like, nor does 99.9% of the american population.
I do know the Power Rangers theme though, even though I rarely watched it.
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by linkdude20002001 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:16 pm
SaiyamanMS wrote:JulieYBM wrote:bkev wrote:Freeza, please! But to be honest, I think they'll only recast simply to avoid having to hire the people who've moved out of Texas. That would be Schemmel and Clarke, right? If anyone's to be recast it's Clarke - Sabat can actually imitate him pretty well as proved by the video games.
I don't believe Sabat actually voices Cell in any games. Clarke just records under an assumed name.
Well, Clarke played Scar in the original Fullmetal Alchemist series, and so far Scar is the only announced character for the new series to be recast other than Alphonse. (Al being recast only because Aaron Dismuke hit puberty.) If they haven't got him for FMA, I doubt they'll be able to get him for Dragon Ball Kai.
As for Schemmel... He'll definitely be one of the tougher ones to get due to being based in New York now, but for all intents and purposes he is
the English Goku. (Or perhaps, "Funimation Goku" would be more accurate with Corlett and Kelamis in the mix from years ago.) Because of that, I can see them going to special effort to get him.
Maybe... But it
is FUNimation. They'd probably recast him because it would be cheaper. Having him do the voice for Gokuh in a long anime series is a lot different than having him do the lines for a single game. A game would probably only take a single day.
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by ultimateemail5000 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:00 pm
I could have sworn there was an interview saying Sean Schemmel recorded certain DBZ movies or something NY. Why would it be difficult?
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by Rocketman » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:16 pm
JulieYBM wrote:The scene has it's own merit. There is absolutely no need to change anything. This isn't the nineties anymore. Dubs are expected to be accurate, changing the music would be inaccurate.
Is it more accurate to blindly copy the original, or to invoke the same feelings as the original?
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by DemonRin » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:47 pm
Rocketman wrote:JulieYBM wrote:The scene has it's own merit. There is absolutely no need to change anything. This isn't the nineties anymore. Dubs are expected to be accurate, changing the music would be inaccurate.
Is it more accurate to blindly copy the original, or to invoke the same feelings as the original?
In this case? Blindly Copy.
DBK would still be aimed at kids from nowadays to some degree, so they'd be throwing in the original Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers theme, and none of the kids would get it. Then, the older Anime Fans unlike most American Dragon Ball Fans who like Accuracy in their dubbing would get upset. They'd only be making a small group of people happy by doing that.
Not to mention Saban owns Power Rangers, so they'd probably have to pay royalties to get the theme song's Tune, it's safer and cheaper just to dub the song as-is.
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by bkev » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:51 pm
DemonRin wrote:
Not to mention Disney owns Power Rangers, so they'd probably have to pay royalties to get the theme song's Tune, it's safer and cheaper just to dub the song as-is.
Fixed that for ya. Anyway, I think FUNi wouldn't even try that; they'd probably keep the tune, as it sounds just generically super-pumped-up to be a Power Rangers theme.
Can't say I don't love it though.
[quote="Brakus"]For all the flack that FUNimation gets on this forum for their quote about DBZ, there's some modicum of truth to it: a 9-year-old is born every day. Or in some cases, "reborn". DBZ may be a kids' show, but it's been so close to so many hearts all over Japan, America, and quite possibly, even the world.[/quote]