Budokai Tenkaichi Character Estimation

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Budokai Tenkaichi Character Estimation

Post by ngnikolaos » Sun May 08, 2005 2:06 am

Give your thoughts.


1 ) Goku
2 ) Gohan, Kid
3 ) Piccolo
4 ) Kuririn
5 ) Yamcha
6 ) Tien
7 ) Chiaotzu
8 ) Yajirobe
9 ) Raditz
10 ) Saibaiman
11 ) Nappa
12 ) Vegeta
13 ) Kewie
14 ) Dodoria
15 ) Zarbon
16 ) Gurudo
17 ) Recoome
18 ) Baata
19 ) Jiisu
20 ) Ginew
21 ) Freeza
22 ) Mirai Trunks
23 ) #16
24 ) #17
25 ) #18
26 ) #19
27 ) #20 (Dr.Gero)
28 ) Cell
29 ) Cell Junior
30 ) Gohan, Teen
31 ) Gohan, Adult
32 ) Great Saiyaman
33 ) Goten
34 ) Trunks
35 ) Videl
36 ) Darbura
37 ) Boo
38 ) Super Boo
39 ) Mr. Satan
40 ) Gotenks
41 ) Gogeta
42 ) Vegeto
43 ) Kid Boo
44 ) Bardock
45 ) Turles
46 ) Oozaru (anyone; possibly Vegeta)
47 ) Dr. Wheelo
48 ) Cooler
49 ) Brolly
50 ) Janemba
51 ) #15
52 ) #14
53 ) #13
54 ) Bojack
55 ) Zangya
56 ) Chi-chi

57-60 ) What-if fusions



Heh. Gone are the good ol' days when the game would have 8-10 characters, and you would have to really put some thought on WHO would be in it. Now, with a roster of 60 characters, the easy part is to say who's in it. The HARD part is to say who's out of it!! :D
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Post by Fuujin » Sun May 08, 2005 5:09 am

I tried to do an alternative one, counting transformations as different characters, just to see if they'd manage to keep their promises like "every baddie in the series" with comperatively little room left because of character slots filled with transformations.

First, for the characters who have different forms:

1. Goku
2. Goku SSJ
3. Goku SSJ3
4. Vegeta
5. Vegeta SSJ
6. Majin Vegeta
7. Lil' Gohan
8. Gohan SSJ
9. Gohan SSJ2
10. Great Saiyaman/Teen Gohan
11. Mystic Gohan
12. Adult Trunks
13. Adult Trunks SSJ
14. Adult Trunks USSJ
15. Lil' Trunks
16. Lil' Trunks SSJ
17. Lil' Goten
18. Lil' Goten SSJ
19. Gotenks
20. Gotenks SSJ
21. Gotenks SSJ3
22. Vegetto
23. Super Vegetto
24. Super Gogeta
25. Freeza form 1
26. Freeza form 2
27. Freeza form 3
28. Freeza form 4
29. Freeza 100%
30. Imperfect Cell
31. Semi-Perfect Cell
32. Perfect Cell
33. Super Perfect Cell
34. Fat Buu
35. Super Buu 1
36. Super Buu 2
37. Super Buu 3
38. Kid Buu

Now, the ones we can be pretty sure about:

39. Janenba
40. Chaotzu
41. Guldo
42. Recoome
43. Burter
44. Jeice
45. Ginyu
46. Oozaru
47. Android #16
48. Android #17
49. Android #18
50. Android #19
51. Android #20
52. Cooler
53. Brolly

Oops, forgot about Piccolo:

54. Piccolo
55. Super Namek Piccolo

If Chaotzu's there, you can bet these guys will be too:

56. Kuririn
57. Yamcha
58. Tenshinhan

Did they say ALL the Saiyans? If so, we should count:

59. Raditz
60. Nappa

That's it. No room for "every baddie in the series" like Zarbon or Dabura or more movie characters that developers seem to try to add. So by this logic it's safer to assume that those 60 characters are not counting transformations. However, it all remains to be seen.
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Post by sangofe » Sun May 08, 2005 5:41 am

I hope paikuhan is in the game!!

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Post by ngnikolaos » Sun May 08, 2005 11:35 am

Hmmm... I don't know Fuujin. The producer said in his interview somethiing like "the previous Budokai had quite a few characters, but you can expect this one to have ... quite a few more."

Though I agree that having transformations as separate characters isn't out of the question, it was a phenomenom mostly apparent in 16-Bit and 32-Bit DBZ games. Granted, the same thing happened in Super Sonic Warriors, but I think the developers count transformations as "moves" instead of characters in all the PS2-and-above systems.

They transform in Sagas right? SSJ Goku is not a "separate" character there, right? I ask because I do not own the game.

Oh, and something else. Taking under consideration that the character models are ready from the previous game to be used in the next, I think that every Budokai game more or less had 14-16 new character models. And while Vegetto EX may constantly claim that Budokai Tenkaichi is a different game, the way I see it, Tenkaichi uses the previous character models and methods of attacks, and has changed the camera angle, and the size of the arenas (granted, a few changes in gameplay will be made, but mostly it will be the same game, just a different feel).

So, since B3 had 45 characters (trasformations not included) I think it's safe to assume that a year of development produced 14-17 more models, giving us 60 different characters.

....I think.
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Post by Aurek » Sun May 08, 2005 12:10 pm

Tenkaichi uses the previous character models
I dont know about that. The Vegeta model they have shown looks quite different and in my opinion inferior to the Budokai 3 one.

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Post by askani son » Sun May 08, 2005 12:48 pm

IMO they have greatly improved on the cel shading. I think that is what makes the characters look different. I wouldn't say they are inferior at all. I like 'em! :P
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Post by Aurek » Sun May 08, 2005 12:57 pm

Oh no I agree the graphics in general look better, its just that particular model looks different. Thus I dont think its the Budokai 3 model.

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Post by Kodoshin » Sun May 08, 2005 1:34 pm

With a different company altogether developing the game, the probability of the same character models being used is extremely slim.

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Post by Aurek » Sun May 08, 2005 1:35 pm

Oh haha, yeah there is that too :oops:

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Post by lost in thought » Sun May 08, 2005 1:36 pm

ngnikolaos wrote:Give your thoughts.
Alright. I think making lists of characters is foolish, just like trying to guess-timate the sort of fighting mechanics of the game; you have no way to validate it, unless Bandai releases a list, or the game comes out.

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Post by askani son » Sun May 08, 2005 2:33 pm

Jeez! It's just a bit of fun. Kinda like betting (without any consequence) and later finding out who was right.
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Post by Mugenmidget » Sun May 08, 2005 3:23 pm

askani son wrote:Jeez! It's just a bit of fun. Kinda like betting (without any consequence) and later finding out who was right.
While I agree with you on the "fun" aspect of it, the topic creator did indeed ask to "give your thoughts."

And since "lost in thought" doesn't find any fun in this practically worthless speculation, he expressed it as asked.

But as for me, I sure hope they don't skimp out on forms, because I really want Imperfect Cell.

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Post by ngnikolaos » Sun May 08, 2005 3:50 pm

Indeed. It matters not what I say about the character list, but what Bandai will decide to do.

However, not all discussions and topics need to have "a point", Lost In Thought...
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Post by Fuujin » Sun May 08, 2005 4:21 pm

Mugenmidget wrote:But as for me, I sure hope they don't skimp out on forms, because I really want Imperfect Cell.
I don't think you should worry, I've seen 3rd form Freeza on a screenshot and they promised us Oozaru form, it seems that they're pretty throughout when it comes to forms, the only real question is whether they count as separate characters or if you can transform in battle.
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Post by Xyex » Sun May 08, 2005 6:32 pm

Indeed. I don't have any doubts transformations will be included with each character instead of seperate. I'm looking forward to when they release the full (or a nearly full) list of characters. ^^
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Post by DB_Fan » Mon May 09, 2005 1:02 pm

There's so many characters that will probably be left
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Post by DB_Fan » Mon May 09, 2005 1:03 pm

1. Goku
2. Kid Gohan
3. Teen Gohan
4. Adult Gohan
5. Great Saiyaman
6. Goten
7. Vegeta
8. Future Trunks
9. Kid Trunks
10. Piccolo
11. Krillin
12. Yamcha
13. Tenshinhan
14. Chaozu
15. Master Roshi (I really wish)
16. Mr. Satan
17. Videl
18. Pan
19. Uub
20. Kaioshin
21. Raditz
22. Nappa
23. Bardock
24. Broly
25. Ginyu
26. Reccome
27. Jeice
28. Burter
29. Guldo
30. Zarbon
31. Dodoria
32. Frieza
33. Cooler
34. Lod Slug
35. Garlic Junior
36. Android 13
37. Andoird 14
38. Android 15
39. Android 16
40. Android 17
41. Android 18
42. Android 19
43. Dr. Gero
44. Cell
45. Turles
46. Dabura
47. Majin Buu
48. Super Buu
49. Kid Buu
50. Janemba
51. Bojack
52. Gotenks
53. Gogeta
54. Vegito
55. Kid Goku
56. Yajirobe
57. Chi-Chi
58. Bulma
59. Kibitoshin
60. Oozaro

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Post by SpaceKappa » Mon May 09, 2005 1:40 pm

I think characters that can't fly are immediately out of a game like this.

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Post by Ash » Mon May 09, 2005 1:52 pm

Kinto'un. And jetpacks >.>

It would really be great to have someone like Muten Roshi in it. If people are imaginative enough to let Mr. Satan fly, they can figure out something for the other non-flying characters.
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