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by Saiga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:44 am
Michsi wrote:There are ways to make it believable IMO. It all depends on how they explain it.
For instance, if we were to find out that she trained in extremely harsh conditions (like the 100G gravity) and pushed herself until she was close to death and benefited from a few zenkais. It would be a nice way to connect her to her son and his training method IMO.
Though I would prefer outsmarting Dodoria, myself.
Where did she get access to 100G gravity? Bardock benefited from a few zenkais and is less than 10,000 (well he should be less as he hasn't gotten the one he got in the Bardock movie).
It's very unreasonable for Hanasia to be up at Dodoria's level.
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by Godo » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:53 am
Saiga wrote:
Where did she get access to 100G gravity? Bardock benefited from a few zenkais and is less than 10,000 (well he should be less as he hasn't gotten the one he got in the Bardock movie).
It's very unreasonable for Hanasia to be up at Dodoria's level.
Unless she has Broly-like potential and was born strong. Or that she actually got quite a few zenkais.
But I think that she won't win with ease. It will probably be like Vegeta vs. Recoome.
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by Saiga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:55 am
Having Broly like potential IS unreasonable.
Beating Dodoria probably wouldn't be enough to qualify her as a Mary Sue, but if not it'd be getting dangerously close.
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by Michsi » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:11 am
The gravity idea was just an example. I don t think it s that far fetched if they do it right. We don t know enough about her to say she traines or fights less than bardock. I find it kinda cool if she turned out to be the strongest saiyan. Makes sense that bardock would send her knowing she would have to face fighters like dodoria.
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by Saiga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:22 am
Her being the strongest Saiyan by itself is far fetched, and even then her power level should be only half Dodoria's.
On the other hand DBM has just as many inconsistencies as GT if not more, so maybe I should stop complaining about this one.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:57 am
She may win if Salagir ignors some facts from the manga about Dodoria, and say he doesn't believe he is as strong as he realy is. Salagir is doing things like this sometimes, like ignoring manga canon, like he doesn't believe that Oozaru multiplies the battle power by 10.
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by Saiga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:01 am
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:She may win if Salagir ignors some facts from the manga about Dodoria, and say he doesn't believe he is as strong as he realy is. Salagir is doing things like this sometimes, like ignoring manga canon, like he doesn't believe that Oozaru multiplies the battle power by 10.
Which is part of what I mean about inconsistencies. Disregarding canon power levels and the like with no warning.
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by Scarz » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:20 pm
"BWARFF!?" Did she shoot a beam out of her mouth or just puked?
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by Rocketman » Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:55 pm
12,000, sure. And nobody noticed this.
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by Scarz » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:02 pm
Rocketman wrote:12,000, sure. And nobody noticed this.
I don't pay attention to power levels, so this means nothing to me.
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by batistabus » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:12 pm
Scarz wrote:Rocketman wrote:12,000, sure. And nobody noticed this.
I don't pay attention to power levels, so this means nothing to me.
Outside of Earth (and other select planets), power levels mean a lot more since most aliens, including Saiyans, can't mask their powers.
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by Gonstead » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:06 pm
That's definitely a Ki blast from the mouth, like what Recoome and Piccolo have done.
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by funrush » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:12 pm
12,000? Doesn't this mean she's stronger than Bardock? Also, Dodoria at 18,000? That would mean he's equal to Vegeta during the Saiyan saga!
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by Gohaz » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:36 pm
You guys care way too much about power levels
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by funrush » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:43 pm
True, but in some cases, they tell us who's stronger.
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by Saimaroimaru » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:46 pm
Gohaz wrote:You guys care way too much about power levels
That is something not unique to this site.
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by jjgp1112 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:52 pm
funrush wrote:12,000? Doesn't this mean she's stronger than Bardock? Also, Dodoria at 18,000? That would mean he's equal to Vegeta during the Saiyan saga!
It wouldn't be all that unreasonable to assume he grew in power in the 30 years after the Bardock Special.
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by Kaboom » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:05 pm
Yeah, Dodoria getting stronger between now and the time of the Namek arc is what makes the most sense out of everything here.
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by funrush » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:38 pm
Yeah, you're right.
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by Saiga » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:31 pm
18,000 is definitely too low. Dodoria isn't a Saiyan, so no near death boosts, and Salagir stated that (in DBM) Freeza's family doesn't train, so it's likely that Dodoria doesn't either. Even if he did, going up by 4,000 from training would be a big jump. I think Salagir has just changed Dodoria's power from the manga, considering he did the same with Freeza.
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