Young Master Roshi?
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Young Master Roshi?
In the 22nd Budokai, and correct me if I'm wrong, Roshi fights Tenshinhan and says something about youth. Does that mean that if he was younger, he could have fought Tenshinhan better?
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He says something about the new generation. However he probably trained through the course of his life so he probably got a lot better. Besides I don't know how much youth matters for a 300 years old guy.
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Stamina? Roshi says that after goku destroys the rr army, he couldn't fight him cause of his stmina.Fox666 wrote:He says something about the new generation. However he probably trained through the course of his life so he probably got a lot better. Besides I don't know how much youth matters for a 300 years old guy.
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Is this the line in question?
Chapter: 123, P13.5
Kame-sennin: “What a guy…He took my technique head-on…He’s got power far greater than I imagined…Like I thought, a new generation of young people is on its way…”
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Probably. I have a fanslation, so mine is something like"what power, oh youth"Bussani wrote:Is this the line in question?
Chapter: 123, P13.5
Kame-sennin: “What a guy…He took my technique head-on…He’s got power far greater than I imagined…Like I thought, a new generation of young people is on its way…”
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I suppose a better example of age causing a difference in strength might be Piccolo Daimao.
I don't think it would be a stretch to imagine that Roshi could have been more powerful at some point in his prime, but we can't say for sure.Chapter: 144, P9.2-3
Pilaf: “Um, hey…So if he regains his youth, he’ll be even more amazing…?”
Piano: “Naturally. So much so that there’ll be no comparison [to how he is now].”
Chapter: 147, P12.1
Piccolo: “Restore my youth! [Restore me] to that time when I was most overflowing with power!”
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Hmm... and Namekians generally seem to retain power in old age better than humans (just look at how decrepit the average ordinary human gets past age 80 or so), considering that even old Piccolo was pretty strong, and so was Kami, and even Guru (fat and immobile as he was) had to be pretty strong in terms of ki to be giving birth to children as powerful as Nail was.
Yeah, that kinda makes me wonder if a younger Roshi could have gotten a lot stronger than the Roshi we know, if only Mutaito hadn't died when he did (or if he had access to some more unusual training methods before he got so old... afterlife training, gravity training, etc...)
Yeah, that kinda makes me wonder if a younger Roshi could have gotten a lot stronger than the Roshi we know, if only Mutaito hadn't died when he did (or if he had access to some more unusual training methods before he got so old... afterlife training, gravity training, etc...)
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Piccolo was sealed, so he did not train or anything.Bussani wrote:I suppose a better example of age causing a difference in strength might be Piccolo Daimao.
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I don't think it would be a stretch to imagine that Roshi could have been more powerful at some point in his prime, but we can't say for sure.
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I don't think roshi trained all that much before goku showed up also. His whole life prolly consisted of watching exercise channel.Fox666 wrote:Piccolo was sealed, so he did not train or anything.Bussani wrote:I suppose a better example of age causing a difference in strength might be Piccolo Daimao.
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I don't think it would be a stretch to imagine that Roshi could have been more powerful at some point in his prime, but we can't say for sure.
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Yeah, I'm sure that was a factor. But would Daimao have been able to get back to his youthful level with training alone? I'm not sure.Fox666 wrote:Piccolo was sealed, so he did not train or anything.
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When Kame-sennin is telling Goku & co. about Piccolo doesn't he says that Piccolo was so strong that not even their younger selves (Tsuru-sennin and Kame-senni) but even their master couldn't defeat him?
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Strength Checker says yes:Senzu_Bean wrote:When Kame-sennin is telling Goku & co. about Piccolo doesn't he says that Piccolo was so strong that not even their younger selves (Tsuru-sennin and Kame-senni) but even their master couldn't defeat him?
Chapter: 135, P6.1
Kame-sennin: “Despite the cute name, he was an outrageously fearsome person…His strength was extremely overwhelming…[ ] He was an opponent we were utterly unable to oppose; not only my younger self or Tsuru-sennin, but even our master, Mutaito. ”
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Kame-sennin may've retained or even surpassed the power he had when he was in his prime, but may not have been able to use it to its fullest extent because he was still old and less in shape than his younger self, which may be why he said that not even he and Tsuru-sennin's younger selves and their master, Mutaito, couldn't defeat Daimao.
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