"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Rukura]

The one on the card is clearly exagerated, but you can't tell me that the hair in that movie screenshot is any tone of yellow lol

When did I ever say it was yellow, the whole point of the conversation was that his hair is darker green than in the movie.
*Broli cards snip*

True, you didn't say yellow, but the point was people not liking / not understanding why his hair is green. All I was saying is that it was like that since 93. And his previous form is blue (which is even further from the standard, yet nobody seems to complain). Plus, it's just Broli lol

You mean purple slash blue.

No, I meant blue

[TheDevilsCorpse]

True, you didn't say yellow, but the point was people not liking / not understanding why his hair is green. All I was saying is that it was like that since 93. And his previous form is blue (which is even further from the standard, yet nobody seems to complain). Plus, it's just Broli lol

I think most of us understand that his "LSS" hair was green since movie 8 was released, at least for most of the movie. Of the three of us complaining, I've interpreted every post as wondering why his SS3 hair was so much darker than his "LSS" form is typically depicted, which is a fairly valid question IMO. Though one could wonder why the hair is actually green I guess, its yellow in movie 10 for both SS and LSS, since SS3 would come after that movie, it probably should be yellow...but whatever. lol

As for the blue, I don't like it when it is that bright. I don't mind it when it looks like the card below, because I just look at it as blue being Broli's secondary hair color, like when Goku's is tinted blue in certain animation, or Vegeta's being red/brown/purple. When he tries to transform into SS, the headband that restricts his power also causes the hair to lighten, but not bleach. The whole thing can be written off because of the device really, residual effects could probably have causes his "LSS" hair to be green too, because it is yellow in the final struggle...

[Rukura]

True, you didn't say yellow, but the point was people not liking / not understanding why his hair is green. All I was saying is that it was like that since 93. And his previous form is blue (which is even further from the standard, yet nobody seems to complain). Plus, it's just Broli lol

I think most of us understand that his "LSS" hair was green since movie 8 was released, at least for most of the movie. Of the three of us complaining, I've interpreted every post as wondering why his SS3 hair was so much darker than his "LSS" form is typically depicted, which is a fairly valid question IMO. Though one could wonder why the hair is actually green I guess, its yellow in movie 10 for both SS and LSS, since SS3 would come after that movie, it probably should be yellow...but whatever. lol

As for the blue, I don't like it when it is that bright. I don't mind it when it looks like the card below, because I just look at it as blue being Broli's secondary hair color, like when Goku's is tinted blue in certain animation, or Vegeta's being red/brown/purple. When he tries to transform into SS, the headband that restricts his power also causes the hair to lighten, but not bleach. The whole thing can be written off because of the device really, residual effects could probably have causes his "LSS" hair to be green too, because it is yellow in the final struggle...

When you put it like that, I do think it's a more valid "what's up with that" and the more I look at these pictures the more I realize how inconsistent they are with the color lol.

Now that you mention that, I really would also explain why it's just regular yellow in movie 10. I think that they're just using that as something to make him look different, because if he has yellow spiky hair like everyone else then he's the generic "big muscles guy" lol

[dbgtFO]

Just to make things crystal clear..

I think most of us understand that his "LSS" hair was green since movie 8 was released, at least for most of the movie. Of the three of us complaining, I've interpreted every post as wondering why his SS3 hair was so much darker than his "LSS" form is typically depicted, which is a fairly valid question IMO.

This is exactly my complaint.

As for the blue, I don't like it when it is that bright.

I've always thought it looked stupid. Even when I first started playing Budokai Tenkaichi 2 it seemed way off to me.

Also, nobody has a problem with his blue hair form?

I do, but it wasn't part of the discussion until you mentioned it.

[DNA]

Well, I think it's fun, I just don't like it as a "default" colour. I like the light-blue haired Broly, it looks different, but I'll always prefer the golden haired one. And I think I prefer the dark-green haired Super Saiyan 3 Broli than the slightly-greenish one, but again, I'll always prefer the golden haired one.

As a final note, no matter how much they tell me that Broli is Super Saiyan 3, I don't bite it, his form has so many differences from the normal Super Saiyan 3, especially since we have four other people who transform into that state and all look similar except for him. I'm still calling it Legendary Super Saiyan 3, it just makes more sense.

[Saiga]

As a final note, no matter how much they tell me that Broli is Super Saiyan 3, I don't bite it, his form has so many differences from the normal Super Saiyan 3, especially since we have four other people who transform into that state and all look similar except for him. I'm still calling it Legendary Super Saiyan 3, it just makes more sense.

For me, I explain it away as Broli is just a freak of nature and his Legendary Super Saiyan form is just his Super Saiyan 2 form, mutated crazily. Just 'cause I don't like the idea of the "Legendary Super Saiyan" form.

[DNA]

For me, I explain it away as Broli is just a freak of nature and his Legendary Super Saiyan form is just his Super Saiyan 2 form, mutated crazily. Just 'cause I don't like the idea of the "Legendary Super Saiyan" form.

Me neither, but I don't think it's a mutated Super Saiyan 2 either. It's just some form exclusive to Broli, and they decided to call it "Legendary Super Saiyan". Like many people have said, it's more akin to a Super Saiyan grade four maybe.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Me neither, but I don't think it's a mutated Super Saiyan 2 either. It's just some form exclusive to Broli, and they decided to call it "Legendary Super Saiyan". Like many people have said, it's more akin to a Super Saiyan grade four maybe.

I still think its just grade 3, and Broli in general has a mutation and the effects were just suppressed by Paragus' control device in his lower forms. And before you ask why he doesn't lose speed, have you seen how tall he is? lol He's tall and lanky for his size, so the extra muscles don't have as much friction against each other during the transformation, thus meaning little to no speed loss.

The other forms, 2 and 3, may have graded forms as well, but they are even less useful to the other characters than the first set. Broli's mutation could make them viable for him though.

It may not be a perfect explanation, but I like it a hell of a lot better than the "Legendary Super Saiyan" BS. lol

[DNA]

I guess that could be one theory. And god, yes, he freaking towers over everyone else even in his normal form, he's even taller than Nappa who himself towers over all the other Saiyans we've seen.

[Senzu_Bean]

We never actually see Broli do anything that can be considered particular fast, right? He pretty much tanks everything the characters throw at him without care to dodge. I like to see his "Legendary" Super Saiyan form as regular Super Saiyan pumped up with power, power and power. That is basically what Broli is - maximum power.

And I definitely not like that much green in his hair. I always assumed his hair was yellow with greenish tint due his aura, uniqueness or whatever. But now he looks like a vegetable.

[DNA]

We never actually see Broli do anything that can be considered particular fast, right? He pretty much tanks everything the characters throw at him without care to dodge. I like to see his "Legendary" Super Saiyan form as regular Super Saiyan pumped up with power, power and power. That is basically what Broli is - maximum power.

You know what they say, his power is maximum.

And I definitely not like that much green in his hair. I always assumed his hair was yellow with greenish tint due his aura, uniqueness or whatever. But now he looks like a vegetable. :P

A vegetable you say...? Maybe even... A broccoli?

Back to the issue at hand, it is true, I don't remember any feats of speed that Broli has done in any of his movies, he normally destroys everything and everyone with wrestling moves and ki blasts.

[Raykugen]

...Because that's how it was in movie 8?

Not even close...

Because it's SSJ3? God, is not so difficult to understand, in his normal state of ssj (as he appeared on his movie number 2) it's not green, so how much powerful his hair it's more green, that shows perfectly how sick he is

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Wrong comparisons.


Both are from the DBH animations, and if SSJ3 Broli's hair wasn't shining from his (golden?) aura (WTF?! ), they would have the same color.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Wrong comparisons.

Both are from the DBH animations, and if SSJ3 Broli's hair wasn't shining from his (golden?) aura (WTF?! ), they would have the same color.

How is it a wrong comparison when the discussion was about the dark color used for the SS3 hair, like on the card, and his green hair in movie 8, which sets the basis for comparison...I'm already aware of the hair colors in the commercials, and they were irrelevant to the discussion.

[DNA]

Anyway, I guess this is where we stand at this point:

Dragon Ball
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Son Goku: Kid
Piccolo Daimao: Old
Piccolo Daimao: Young

Dragon Ball Z
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Bulma
Son Gohan: Future (Base, Super Saiyan)
Paikuhan
Gogeta (Fat, Super Saiyan)
Janemba (Condensed)

Dragon Ball GT
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Son Goku: GT (Base, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan 4)
Vegeta: GT (Base, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 4)
Pan
Trunks: GT (Base, Super Saiyan)
Uub: GT (Merged)
Gogeta (Super Saiyan 4)
Baby Vegeta (Final)
Super 17
San Xing Long
Si Xing Long (Armoured, Base)
Yi Xing Long (Base, Fused)

Extras
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Trunks: Future (Super Saiyan 2)
Yamhan
Majin Buu: Evil (Vegeta; Cell; Freeza; Tenshinhan and Yamcha)
Majin Freeza
Majin Cell
Kuriza (Base, Final Form)
Son Gohan: Future (Super Saiyan 2)
Ultimate Son Gohan: Future

As you can see, we're running out of Dragon Ball Z character models and we barely have any Dragon Ball models, we do however have a few Dragon Ball GT models, which would signal a logical jump in the future sets. I mean, they could either do one or two more sets to cover Janemba and possibly some other characters from early movies (which I personally think it's unlikely at this point), or make use of the GT models and do further sets. I wouldn't expect it if they had to make many new models from scratch but honestly? The main ones are all done already, I do figure that the jump to GT era is logical and will most likely happen, but we never really now.

Edit: TheDevilsCorpse, do you know where to find scans of the avatar cards? Like the normal scans in the official website.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Dragon Ball Z
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Bulma

Bulma? Why?

Extras
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Trunks: Future (Super Saiyan 2)
Yamhan
Majin Buu: Evil (Vegeta; Cell; Freeza; Tenshihan and Yamcha)
Kuriza
Son Gohan: Future (Super Saiyan 2)
Ultimate Son Gohan: Future

Add Cell (Kuririn absorbed) too!

[DNA]

Bulma? Why?

Because the model exists. Not that I want her in, at all, just listing for completness.

Add Cell (Kuririn absorbed) too!

Oh, yes, forgot that piece of shit.
Edit: Actually, scratch that, Budokai 1 doesn't use the same models as the following games in the series.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Anyway, I guess this is where we stand at this point:

You could include Arale and the Gatchans, as well as Obotchaman for Dragon Ball if you want. They were in Dragon Battlers...or the game before that, I forget. Also fat Gogeta (Gotenks didn't change names when he failed, Veku shouldn't be official lol), he was in there as well. Kurieza had both his base and true form if you used Freeza's Spaceship, and Majin Cell and Majin Freeza if you want total completeness...

Edit: TheDevilsCorpse, do you know where to find scans of the avatar cards? Like the normal scans in the official website.

No, not really scans...there are some images of them that are a part of larger images somewhere on the site for a lot of them (I think a couple are missing), but not actual scans like all the other cards have.

[DNA]

You could include Arale and the Gatchans, as well as Obotchaman for Dragon Ball if you want.

Nah... Didn't include them because they belong more to Dr. Slump than Dragon Ball, even though they did appear in Dragon Ball as a cameo.

Also fat Gogeta, he was in there as well.

You know what? Saw it, kept telling myself mentally that he was already there for some reason.

Kurieza had both his base and true form if you used Freeza's Spaceship

True, forgot that as well.

and Majin Cell and Majin Freeza if you want total completeness...

Hate them, but I guess they also count.

No, not really scans...there are some images of them that are a part of larger images somewhere on the site for a lot of them (I think a couple are missing), but not actual scans like all the other cards have.

Darn... I did find some in Dragon Ball wikia, although most of them are really grainy and there are no scans for the female Saiyans.

[DNA]

Sorry for double posting but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIZfgb_2 ... re=related
This shows a bit more footage, right? Does this mean the full video has been released?