Namek and Android arcs (Kuichi): Kai dub or DBZ dub?

[Aoi]

Which show's version (dub) is superior during the Namek and Android arcs?

Dragon Ball Z (FUNI English dub) or Dragon Ball Z KAI (FUNI, again)

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Depends what you means by 'DBZ dub.' There are several. Anyway I prefer the Kai dub for Namek of course, because of the voices are overall better and the Android arcs because of the same reason.

[Akumaito Beam]

In terms of accuracy Kai without a shadow of a doubt. The Namek dub was based on those old Saban era scripts and the Android arc is pretty par for the course in terms of the complete silliness in the Z dub pre-Cell Games.

In terms of voices I don't care for either so I can't really weigh in.

[xzero]

While Namek has a nostalgia factor for me, the voice work for Kai is infinitely better for both. I still prefer the Faulconer music to Kikuchi, and Yamamoto is somewhere in the middle. Just glad I snagged the Kai sets before they got discontinued.

[penguintruth]

Kind of a dumb question. The Kai dub blows the Z dub out of the water completely.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Kind of a dumb question. The Kai dub blows the Z dub out of the water completely.

Not precisely(Well not to some people, anyway). There are people who'd rather have smoker Gohan, then screechy Gohan. There are people who'd rather have super constipated, grunting Namekian warrior, then a lesser constipated grunting ogre. There are some people who'd rather have bored Android 18, then bitchy, high pitched android 18. There are some people who'd rather have no emotion 16, then 16 with personality. To make a long story short, some people love the old voices. Plain and simple.

[AgitoZ]

Not precisely(Well not to some people, anyway). There are people who'd rather have smoker Gohan, then screechy Gohan. There are people who'd rather have super constipated, grunting Namekian warrior, then a lesser constipated grunting ogre. There are some people who'd rather have bored Android 18, then bitchy, high pitched android 18. There are some people who'd rather have no emotion 16, then 16 with personality. To make a long story short, some people love the old voices. Plain and simple.

You mean to tell me the world doesn't move to the beat of just one drum? Different strokes to different folks? Man.

But yeah, penguintruth is right, Kai is an overall superior dubbing effort. The script alone tops whatever was in Z.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

Not precisely(Well not to some people, anyway). There are people who'd rather have smoker Gohan, then screechy Gohan. There are people who'd rather have super constipated, grunting Namekian warrior, then a lesser constipated grunting ogre. There are some people who'd rather have bored Android 18, then bitchy, high pitched android 18. There are some people who'd rather have no emotion 16, then 16 with personality. To make a long story short, some people love the old voices. Plain and simple.

You mean to tell me the world doesn't move to the beat of just one drum? Different strokes to different folks? Man.

But yeah, penguintruth is right, Kai is an overall superior dubbing effort. The script alone tops whatever was in Z.

The voices are better(especially 16's and King Cold's), but I could care less about the script(although it is better) I however prefer the BFP music as you already know and the Kikuchi mix isn't helping either

[bkev]

I prefer Meredith McCoy's 18 to Colleen Clinkenbeard's, and the directorial choice for Eric Vale's Trunks to be so constantly grunty was a huge mistake. That said, other than that it's no contest: Kai all the way.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

I prefer Meredith McCoy's 18 to Colleen Clinkenbeard's, and the directorial choice for Eric Vale's Trunks to be so constantly grunty was a huge mistake. That said, other than that it's no contest: Kai all the way.

Yeah, he sounds irritated all the time. Ironically, Vale is by far the best actor in Season 4 and THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!!

[Aoi]

I was thinking more like: "Which show's version is more enjoyable to watch?"

This includes
- Pacing
- Music
- General feelings when watching each show's presentation of essentially the same over all story.


In a way, I'm asking if you'd rather watch the old ones by yourself (original dub, Falconer, more filler) than Kai's version (fast pace, more adult script, Kikuchi ...or Yamamoto's original version).

[elcrunkus]

I remember even back when I originally watched dbz i thought namek's pacing was horrible. Kai makes this saga much more tolerable.

[email2003]

Kai has the best dub and the voices were much better. I watch those sagas in Z and good lord the voices were flat out horrible. Vegeta's voice was terrible during the Namek - Buu sagas but was improved in Kai. The same goes for Piccolo.

[UnbiasedDBZfan]

The Kai dub has better voices overall, even Sabat's terrible Vegeta and Piccolo are less terrible(Although that barely means anything). Yeah as you may have noticed I have a HUGE bias(My name is Bizarro if you noticed, so the people claiming I'm a hypocrite are wrong) against Chris Sabat. But the better music is the Faulconer score FOR ME no question. EVEN THE MEGA MAN MUSIC IS BETTER IMO(People are wondering how can you know about the earlier 2nd Ocean dub if you're from Canada? Well it's called Youtube, look it up!) Speaking of Earlier Ocean dub, the voices in that were not as good as Seasons 1 and 2, but still a might bit better then the Funimation dubs(at that point at least)

[Samwize78]

Kai all the way. Dialogue is changed so much in the Namek arc of the first dub. They even make up their own logic.

[Metalwario64]

*looks at title*

Kuichi? Do you mean Kikuchi?

[TheBlackPaladin]

Kind of a dumb question. The Kai dub blows the Z dub out of the water completely.

I would still say the Kai dub is better, but how much better varies according to the saga in question. I think depending on what point in the series we're in, the Kai dub doesn't necessarily "blow the Z dub out of the water," so much as it just surpasses it. I still think the Season 1 and 2 redubs are reasonably good. The script was decent, and a lot of the acting was good too. Heck, even the first three DBZ movies, which were dubbed last by the FUNimation in-house cast, can stand toe-to-toe with the Pioneer/Ocean dubs of those movies as far as acting quality is concerned (although I still give the edge to the Pioneer/Ocean dubs because they had the better scripts). Everything from Season 3 and on, though, the Kai dub easily blows the Z dub out of the water.

[Samwize78]

I would still say the Kai dub is better, but how much better varies according to the saga in question. I think depending on what point in the series we're in, the Kai dub doesn't necessarily "blow the Z dub out of the water," so much as it just surpasses it.

I agree with this 100%. The Saiyan and Namek sagas of the DragonBall Z dub are pretty decent. Even though some of the dialogue may be changed around slightly it doesn't mean the plot is. I remember once I went back and watched the English track on Dragon Box One and found the scripts between those episodes and Kai to be surprisingly similar.

[dbboxkaifan]

Aoi, I just noticed you wrote "Kuichi" and it's supposed to be Shunsuke Kikuchi (Kikuchi).

I know English DBZ fans have a hard time pronouncing and writing his name but come on, it's not that hard.

Kuririn's name's a bit more complex than Kikuchi, for English/American speakers, I'd say.

[Corporate_Nothing]

I would still say the Kai dub is better, but how much better varies according to the saga in question. I think depending on what point in the series we're in, the Kai dub doesn't necessarily "blow the Z dub out of the water," so much as it just surpasses it.

I agree with this 100%. The Saiyan and Namek sagas of the DragonBall Z dub are pretty decent. Even though some of the dialogue may be changed around slightly it doesn't mean the plot is. I remember once I went back and watched the English track on Dragon Box One and found the scripts between those episodes and Kai to be surprisingly similar.

Yeah, but the redub of the first two seasons is still plagued with annoying little one-liners like "I call it a 'Double Sunday'" and "I think you've been dipping into the eggnog. Allow me to show you off the island." The plot itself might still be left intact (no more "your father was a brilliant scientist" lines), but, in my opinion, both the voice acting and the script itself for Z Kai is a huge improvement over that of the Z redub.