Discussion specifically regarding the "refreshed" TV version of DBZ created in Japan for its 20th anniversary, including individual threads for each episode.
Kingdom Heartless wrote:Hopefully they sort out something for the music rather than just recycling more Kikuchi.
Yes, and re-release with new music, yesplzkthx.
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:At first I thought this made sense because the 2013 movie is set around the later part of the series. But it's not airing in Japan so, I don't know what's going on. Perhaps FUNimation is funding this? It seems a little out of their league though, right? Even if this was within the realm of their financial capabilities, it doesn't make sense for them to fund a show that just did OK.
Perhaps Toei is just creating this to sell overseas for some extra money? I mean, they did sell it to almost every contry that aired DBZ originally, I'm sure there's money to be made in that aspect....? ::shrugs::
Maybe Funi and AB are funding it, or the right holders in Spain? Who knows... This is kinda crazy news....
Despite the Buu arc not being one of my favourites, I'm absolutely friggen excited!
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Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
Gonstead wrote:Despite the Buu arc not being one of my favourites, I'm absolutely friggen excited!
I like the buu arc but the freeza arc is my favorite but this is still exciting
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Gonstead wrote:Despite the Buu arc not being one of my favourites, I'm absolutely friggen excited!
Same here but I'm curious how they would handle the Great Saiyaman episodes. Those where my favorite episodes and I'm hoping they would keep most of it intact.
I will be telling my little cousins about the great news. They have been watching episodes of the Buu saga online and out of order but they don't seem to mind that at all.
I'd take a guess that at most they might end up with 2 episodes of Saiyaman if they're trying to be Manga accurate but still have a little padding for episode count.
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Mayuri Kurotsuchi wrote:"In this world, nothing perfect exists. It may be a cliche after all but it's the way things are. That's precisely why ordinary men pursue the concept of perfection, it's infatuation. But ultimately I have to ask myself "What is the true meaning of being perfect?" and the answer I came up with was nothing. Not one thing. The truth of the matter is I despise perfection! If something is truly perfect, that's IT! The bottom line becomes there is no room for imagination! No space for intelligence or ability or improvement! Do you understand? To men of science like us, perfection is a dead end, a condition of hopelessness. Always strive to be better than anything that came before you but not perfect! Scientist's agonize over the attempt to achieve perfection! That's the kind of creatures we are! We take joy in trying to exceed our grasp, in trying to reach for something that in the end, we have to admit may in fact be unreachable!"
I find it funny the first episode will inevitably be episode #200, one supervised by Yamamuro Tadayoshi...the guy in charge of all the new animation. Hah.
WOOOO FUCK YEAH. Now they need to get a consistent soundtrack. If they want to use the kikuchi soundtrack, then use all of it, not repeat the same few songs over and over again.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
I hope they don't cut out the Saiyaman filler too much. Only one episode between Goku "dying forever" and announcing that he's coming back? That would be awful.
dbzfan7 wrote:WOOOO FUCK YEAH. Now they need to get a consistent soundtrack. If they want to use the kikuchi soundtrack, then use all of it, not repeat the same few songs over and over again.
Or the synthesized Kikuchi tracks that have been used on RB1 to Ultimate Blast. They'd fit to modern music and to this Special/whatever.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray
Shut the fuck up, first I learn about Star Wars Episodes VII-IX, and now this?! Fucking awesome!
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Concerning the Great Saiyaman arc, I wonder how they'll handle Chapters 424 and 425. Their anime-counterparts (the second half of 201 and the last few minutes of 204) are greatly altered so unless they completely re-animate that part, they're gonna have to do some tricky editing. Out of curiosity, how did the TV Animations Comics handle that part of the arc?
That's just one of my many questions, others being:
*New BGM or more recycled Kikuchi? If its the latter than hopefully they can at least add the soundtracks of Movies 10-13 into the mix to broaden the BGM library.
*Will Japan receive the episodes on DVD / Blu-ray? Seeing as how the Metarex Saga of Sonic X hasn't had a Japanese release, something tells me this is going to be case as well.
I'm thinking that if they've already reached Goten and Trunks becoming Mighty Mask then they're at episode #214-ish. If Toei combines two episodes for one Dragon Ball Kai episode, that'd mean we're at around episode #7. Hmm...
Guess this makes Madman's Kai complete collection only 2/3 of the complete series.
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andrewtuell1991 wrote:Concerning the Great Saiyaman arc, I wonder how they'll handle Chapters 424 and 425. Their anime-counterparts (the second half of 201 and the last few minutes of 204) are greatly altered so unless they completely re-animate that part, they're gonna have to do some tricky editing.
Maybe this means they'll have to give Saiyaman a good few episodes
I really enjoyed the part of Z when it seemed like Goku was gone forever, the picture of him as an angel at the end of the closing credits made me feel sad, in a way that meant that what I was watching as doing something right. People always come back to life in DBZ, right? That he just got a little nod at the end of the credits made him really feel gone. The story felt deep and real. Despite that I was sad to see him go, "hey guys, I'm coming back!" just made me think "GOD DAMN IT, THEY HAD TO BLOODY RUIN IT!". I really hope he won't come back straight after dying, that we can get about three episodes in before he announces his return.
I was told at MCM Expo in London by MangaUK that Toei had "some more announcements to make about Dragon Ball Kai". Looks like I found out what they were!
I bet on a horse that won and got 90 bucks, Star Wars Episode 7 and now this. It's been a good week. I always had a small bit of hope for a Kai Buu saga, I'm glad to see it come true. As much as I can't wait to hear the Japanese cast I am FAR more excited for the Funimation dub.
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Toei probably did this because they dont have huge international hits. One Piece and Pretty Cure tanked over here.
Well maybe if Toei had the intelligence to give Digimon to an American company that would actually treat it with respect, they'd get better numbers...
Okay. Give it to Funimation so they can give it a DVD release....And no TV Deal,Toys,Games or any REAL exposure at all.
Please understand. Saban will actually give lots of love to Digimon. More than any other company.
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Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
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Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
