Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I'm pretty sure everybody has a different answer on this one, but I think Yamcha was defeating Olibu in other world in Anime? Thats a pretty big feat, considering he should be around at least Semi Perfect Cell or suppressed Perfect Cell level? He came in second to Pikkon in the Other World tournament. I know this was not shown in the Manga, neither was Pikkon or Super Kaioken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZQbmCUzOzw

Anyway, I just thought this scene was a little, overdone for Yamcha?

[Saiga]

It is overdone, obviously no human in the Boo Arc would be capable of beating someone anywhere near Cell's level, regardless of the form, by manga logic. But then again, base Goku would beat Olibu too with anime logic, so it probably evens out in the end.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

It is overdone, obviously no human in the Boo Arc would be capable of beating someone anywhere near Cell's level, regardless of the form, by manga logic. But then again, base Goku would beat Olibu too with anime logic, so it probably evens out in the end.

Even my most extreme power levels i have for Krillin and Tien, neither of them go near Frieza. Maybe 50% but that could be pushing it.

[Saiga]

It is overdone, obviously no human in the Boo Arc would be capable of beating someone anywhere near Cell's level, regardless of the form, by manga logic. But then again, base Goku would beat Olibu too with anime logic, so it probably evens out in the end.

Even my most extreme power levels i have for Krillin and Tenshinhan, neither of them go near Freeza. Maybe 50% but that could be pushing it.

I don't even have them at his first form. So yeah, I think the filler scene is really pushing it. Of course, others have said that Olibu could merely be throwing the fight, it just doesn't look that way to me.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

It is overdone, obviously no human in the Boo Arc would be capable of beating someone anywhere near Cell's level, regardless of the form, by manga logic. But then again, base Goku would beat Olibu too with anime logic, so it probably evens out in the end.

Even my most extreme power levels i have for Krillin and Tenshinhan, neither of them go near Freeza. Maybe 50% but that could be pushing it.

I don't even have them at his first form. So yeah, I think the filler scene is really pushing it. Of course, others have said that Olibu could merely be throwing the fight, it just doesn't look that way to me.

Oh, not even at the million mark? Filler really does know how to do it

Filler just made Yamcha 10,000x stronger than he really is!

[Saiga]

Oh, not even at the million mark? Filler really does know how to do it

Filler just made Yamcha 10,000x stronger than he really is!

Yeah, I don't have them growing very high at all. The reason being is that after Kaio's they simply don't do any sort of extraordinary training.

[Zephyr]

I don't see any way for the humans to even reach 1st form Freeza's power.

There's simply no way for the human characters to keep up with the non-human characters, as they lack access to every single plot device and method of powering up that all of the non-humans used and abused to reach the tiers of power that they did. No zenkais, no fusion, no SSj transformations.

[Pantalones]

Yeah, Yamcha beating Olibu is absurd no matter how strong the humans got, at least if we're supposed to believe that Olibu actually put up a fight against Paikuhan. Yamcha seems to be the first to give up on training and he was the weakest of the three back in the Androids/Cell saga, so there's no way he managed to miraculously get that strong in 7 years of... not really even training?

It'd be more believable if it was Tenshinhan or Krillin (who I think could be anywhere between the low single-digit millions and the lower tens-of-millions by the Buu saga, though still lower than the adult base Saiyans just because the Saiyans get so many big power-ups), though even then it'd depend on just how strong Olibu really is. If he actually is in the range of Cell (any form), then yeah... just filler being filler, with its usual inconsistent power comparisons (which seem to get worse toward the later parts of the series--Yamcha vs. Olibu, the whole "Goku fighting Super Buu in SSj3 at all/Kid Buu in SSj2 before SSj3" mess, base Vegerot smacking Buu around and then somehow having a bit of trouble with him even in Super Saiyan when he goes nuts later, and then GT... I don't remember any "inconsistent filler power level" moments from the earlier chunks of the series that even come close to those.)

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yeah, Yamcha beating Olibu is absurd no matter how strong the humans got, at least if we're supposed to believe that Olibu actually put up a fight against Paikuhan. Yamcha seems to be the first to give up on training and he was the weakest of the three back in the Androids/Cell saga, so there's no way he managed to miraculously get that strong in 7 years of... not really even training?

You know what's funny? In the same scene that Yamcha beat Olibu, Kuririn says that Yamcha didn't train during these years, which means that Yamcha should be stronger than that during the Cell Games!

[sonikku956]

It's simple: Yamcha is 1/8 Saiyan XD


But seriously, is it safe to say that Humans are underpowered and that Saiyans are overpowered?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Around Freeza's third form and under.

[Ketchup_Revenge]

I was recently on another Forum and they had Tenshinhan's level around 5 billion by the end of Z, and other members were giving this guy pats on the back for a "well made" power level list. I seriously burst out laughing at my computer screen.


In all honesty, I don't have any of the humans even near 1 mil. Krillin gets up to Freeza's first form by the end of the Cell arc, tops.

[Amuro Ray]

Well, in the Movie Bojack unbound - Tien was shown to hold his own vs a Non SSJ Trunks - This movie does take place after the Cell saga. It's not Cannon, but it does give us insight that a Human would be around the same power as a base Sayjin.

[Fox666]

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[DBZAOTA482]

Yeah, Yamcha beating Olibu is absurd no matter how strong the humans got, at least if we're supposed to believe that Olibu actually put up a fight against Paikuhan. Yamcha seems to be the first to give up on training and he was the weakest of the three back in the Androids/Cell saga, so there's no way he managed to miraculously get that strong in 7 years of... not really even training?

It was done intentionally as a joke. Remember Yamcha is the undisputed Filler King.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I was recently on another Forum and they had Tenshinhan's level around 5 billion by the end of Z, and other members were giving this guy pats on the back for a "well made" power level list. I seriously burst out laughing at my computer screen.


In all honesty, I don't have any of the humans even near 1 mil. Krillin gets up to Freeza's first form by the end of the Cell arc, tops.

You know, if you search for battle power lists around the Internet, you will figure out that Mr. Satan and Videl are far stronger than Freeza.

Where are these lists? The highest I ever saw Mr. Satan at was like maybe 250.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Yeah, Yamcha beating Olibu is absurd no matter how strong the humans got, at least if we're supposed to believe that Olibu actually put up a fight against Paikuhan. Yamcha seems to be the first to give up on training and he was the weakest of the three back in the Androids/Cell saga, so there's no way he managed to miraculously get that strong in 7 years of... not really even training?

It was done intentionally as a joke. Remember Yamcha is the undisputed Filler King.

You know, I'm surprised Yamcha literally was not a pancake after trying 300x gravity in the Anime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zesceyrNPds

What a poser! :XD

[Blade]

I think Tienshinham is the only human who reaches a power level that is meaningful in regards to the context and scale of the latter events of the Manga.

We see that against Semi-Perfect Cell he is able to make a meaningful stand using Tri-Beam. Furthermore in the Buu Saga, whilst hopelessly unable to compete, his survival where every other human on the Earth died and his intervention in the battle between Buu and Gohan shows him to be at least relevant.

[sonikku956]

I think Tienshinham is the only human who reaches a power level that is meaningful in regards to the context and scale of the latter events of the Manga.

We see that against Semi-Perfect Cell he is able to make a meaningful stand using Tri-Beam. Furthermore in the Buu Saga, whilst hopelessly unable to compete, his survival where every other human on the Earth died and his intervention in the battle between Buu and Gohan shows him to be at least relevant.

But Ten isn't even a full-blooded Earthling. It was confirmed that Krillin was the strongest full blooded Earthling in the series thanks to the BoG character data.

[Marco Polo]

Tenshinhan isn't even stronger than Android 18...