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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:34 pm

I NEVER said TFS was a dub. I said Rikum's voice actors. TFS have a Rikum Voice actor does they not?
He's barely an actor. The whole point of it is the humor. He could be the shittiest actor in the world and it wouldn't matter if the point was to make people laugh. It's a parody, not a performance. You listed a bunch of dubs, and then a parody. One of these things is not like the others.
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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:37 pm

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I NEVER said TFS was a dub. I said Rikum's voice actors. TFS have a Rikum Voice actor does they not?
He's barely an actor. The whole point of it is the humor. He could be the shittiest actor in the world and it wouldn't matter if the point was to make people laugh. It's a parody, not a performance. You listed a bunch of dubs, and then a parody. One of these things is not like the others.
Regardless he's still a voice actor. Official or not. I listen my favorite voices of Rikum. Just so happens TFS is one of them and the other is dubs. If I liked the voice it's my opinion =/. If I liked SSJ2Gozar's Rikum voice then I would include him. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:39 pm

It's not even Reacoom, it's parody Reacoom. They are doing a parody of the story and the characters, not a rendition of DBZ.
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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:43 pm

ABED wrote:It's not even Reacoom, it's parody Reacoom. They are doing a parody of the story and the characters, not a rendition of DBZ.
Same animation. Mostly same BGM. Still seem Dbz to me. Regardless of it being a parody or not. It is still a voice.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:45 pm

ABED wrote:TeamFourStar NEVER counts as a dub! This is a pet peeve of mine. It's not an official dub, and it's a parody.

Its a parody, not a performance. You listed a bunch of dubs, and then a parody. One of these things is not like the others.
Its designed to be a parody, but if you want to get technical, even though it's not official, they are still making a "dub" by definition. They are dubbing new lines onto preexisting footage after the initial recording process was already completed after all. You can argue the dialogue and footage edits if you want, but as seen with Funimation, even official dubs can do that (to an extent).
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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:51 pm

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ABED wrote:It's not even Reacoom, it's parody Reacoom. They are doing a parody of the story and the characters, not a rendition of DBZ.
Same animation. Mostly same BGM. Still seem Dbz to me. Regardless of it being a parody or not. It is still a voice.
Weird Al uses the same music but changes the lyrics. That doesn't make it the same song. In this case, it's not DBZ. Yes it's a voice, but it's a fan dubbed parody, and not in the same vein as official dubs. The products have two different intentions.

DevilsCorpse, I get your point about the term "dub" which is why I clarified it by adding modifiers like "fan" and "official". Yes, official dubs can change words but a parody isn't the same thing. TeamFourStar's Reacoom (or any character for that matter) is intended to make the audience laugh. In the official dubs, Reacoom is silly but he's also a villain that you are supposed to root against when he hurts the heros.
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Re: What is the dumbest thing you ever heard a Db fan say?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:55 pm

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"DragonBall: Evolution raped my childhood..."
I hate this as well. DBE is bad, but I think it will be one of those movies that will fade into obscurity in another decade from now. People will be like "Hey did you know that they made a live action DBZ movie back in the late 2000's?".
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Re: What is funny but dumb things you heard a Db fan say?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:58 pm

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ABED wrote:It's not even Reacoom, it's parody Reacoom. They are doing a parody of the story and the characters, not a rendition of DBZ.
Same animation. Mostly same BGM. Still seem Dbz to me. Regardless of it being a parody or not. It is still a voice.
Weird Al uses the same music but changes the lyrics. That doesn't make it the same song. In this case, it's not DBZ. Yes it's a voice, but it's a fan dubbed parody, and not in the same vein as official dubs. The products have two different intentions.

DevilsCorpse, I get your point about the term "dub" which is why I clarified it by adding modifiers like "fan" and "official". Yes, official dubs can change words but a parody isn't the same thing. TeamFourStar's Reacoom (or any character for that matter) is intended to make the audience laugh. In the official dubs, Reacoom is silly but he's also a villain that you are supposed to root against when he hurts the heros.
All of Rikum's english dub made me :lol: more then TFS cause of how stupid it sounds =/. But I never mention it's a dub. All I said that he was one of my faovirte Rikum voices. So now he never voiced Rikum cause of your "Definition". Hell The original Funimation Dub(Both ocean and in-house) was more of a parody then TFS. Weird does use same music but change lyrics But TFS uses Same anime,BGM, and names. Only thing they're changing is the dialog. Going by that logic all dubs are not official. It's the same animation but I never said DUB. I said VOICE. I can pull up a Fan-voice of Goku and say that's my favorite Goku Voice. In fact....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsyrNFuFcc on this video it say by SonNoki

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. Since that's not a DUB nor official I guess that means what he said is incorrect and hat Omar's Goku voice can't be consider a favorite. It's an opinion on voices.

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Re: What is the dumbest thing you ever heard a Db fan say?

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:03 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:
"DragonBall: Evolution raped my childhood..."
I hate this as well. DBE is bad, but I think it will be one of those movies that will fade into obscurity in another decade from now. People will be like "Hey did you know that they made a live action DBZ movie back in the late 2000's?".
I don't understand how any bad movie "rapes" someone's childhood. That stuff is still there, the memories as well. I don't see how a crappy Transformers movie or Dragon Ball film hurts what you experienced as a child.
All I said that he was one of my faovirte Rikum voices. So now he never voiced Rikum cause of your "Definition". Hell The original Funimation Dub(Both ocean and in-house) was more of a parody then TFS. Weird does use same music but change lyrics But TFS uses Same anime,BGM, and names. Only thing they're changing is the dialog.

The "Only" as if that's something small. And the intent and purpose behind it. There's nothing weird. As bad as the Z dub is, it's not more of a parody than the thing which its very purpose for being is to satirize or mock the original work.

I get it, you only said voice but it's a completely different beast altogether regardless if it's the same music and animation.

What makes something official is if the dubbing company owns the license to the property.
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Re: What is the dumbest thing you ever heard a Db fan say?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:17 pm

ABED wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:
"DragonBall: Evolution raped my childhood..."
I hate this as well. DBE is bad, but I think it will be one of those movies that will fade into obscurity in another decade from now. People will be like "Hey did you know that they made a live action DBZ movie back in the late 2000's?".
I don't understand how any bad movie "rapes" someone's childhood. That stuff is still there, the memories as well. I don't see how a crappy Transformers movie or Dragon Ball film hurts what you experienced as a child.
All I said that he was one of my faovirte Rikum voices. So now he never voiced Rikum cause of your "Definition". Hell The original Funimation Dub(Both ocean and in-house) was more of a parody then TFS. Weird does use same music but change lyrics But TFS uses Same anime,BGM, and names. Only thing they're changing is the dialog.

The "Only" as if that's something small. And the intent and purpose behind it. There's nothing weird. As bad as the Z dub is, it's not more of a parody than the thing which its very purpose for being is to satirize or mock the original work.

I get it, you only said voice but it's a completely different beast altogether regardless if it's the same music and animation.

What makes something official is if the dubbing company owns the license to the property.
You took it WAY to seriously when I said Ocean and Ih-house Funi was more of a parody. Clearly I know it''s not but I was saying that's how much they changed it. I never said TFS was official. You just lashed at me for saying I like Rikum's TFS voice.

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Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Lash is a harsh word, and not how I intended for it to come across. Also, I didn't take it too seriously. I neither lashed out at you, nor did I do so for liking the voice. My point of contention was comparing it like it's in the same wheelhouse as official dubs. Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:31 pm

ABED wrote: Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
To be quite honest, I'd put TFS Recoome above any of the English dubs, and TFS Freeza far above Linda Young.
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Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:36 pm

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ABED wrote: Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
To be quite honest, I'd put TFS Recoome above any of the English dubs, and TFS Freeza far above Linda Young.
I like the Freeza voice as it's similar to Ayres, but their Reacoom voice? Really? You honestly think it's better than the Ocean dub voice?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:43 pm

I find GT worst then DBE. With DBE, I knew it was going to suck and I found enjoyment out of it because it was so cheesy and stupid. With GT, I had high hopes for it before I saw it. GT had the idea of Goku becoming a kid again, a new SSj form, villains coming back to life, evil dragons and Super 17 (#17 was my favorite cyborg in the series. As a kid, I was really looking forward to the Super 17 saga). With all of that stuff you can be like "Sounds awesome. What can go wrong since Toei has done a good job on Dragon Ball without Akira Toriyama help before?". With DBE, everyone knew it was going to be a total disaster. I remember people were laughing in the theater when they show the trailer in front of Watchmen. I don't think anyone bought the toys since I remember seeing them a few months after the movie came out in the bargain bin at Walmart :lol: .
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Post by ABED » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:47 pm

I am a big Buffy fan, so I dig James Marsters, and I love his enthusiasm for Dragon Ball Z, but I remember reading comments where he thought DBZ was better than Dragon Ball and how the movie made improvements to DB.
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ABED wrote:
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ABED wrote: Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
To be quite honest, I'd put TFS Recoome above any of the English dubs, and TFS Freeza far above Linda Young.
I like the Freeza voice as it's similar to Ayres, but their Reacoom voice? Really? You honestly think it's better than the Ocean dub voice?
Yeah, I'm not really sure why I dislike Ocean Recoome, but I do. Something about the voice just seems off to me.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:01 pm

ABED wrote:Lash is a harsh word, and not how I intended for it to come across. Also, I didn't take it too seriously. I neither lashed out at you, nor did I do so for liking the voice. My point of contention was comparing it like it's in the same wheelhouse as official dubs. Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
Which is why I said VOICE not dub =/. If I said dub I was just asking for trouble.

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ABED wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
ABED wrote: Like what you like, but when you put that voice (which I found to be terrible, FYI) in the same sentence as official dub voices, it's hard not to make the inference that they are in the same league.
To be quite honest, I'd put TFS Recoome above any of the English dubs, and TFS Freeza far above Linda Young.
I like the Freeza voice as it's similar to Ayres, but their Reacoom voice? Really? You honestly think it's better than the Ocean dub voice?
Ocean dub voice wasn't all that good to be honest.

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A surprisingly large amount of people will say that Tien is stronger than Krillin, Freeza, the androids, Piccolo and Kaioshin.
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