How restrictive is Shunkan Ido?

[dbzfan7]

Does Goku need a ki signature even for short distances? Couldn't he teleport to his house if he was close by and no one was there. Or does he have to have a ki signature even for short distances.

[Monkey D Goku]

I would say he always needs to be able to feel a ki signature. I mean every case his been shown to use the technique his always sensing someone or trying to home in onto them.
The other restriction would be how well and far you can sense people.

[TheGmGoken]

He needs a ki signal. Depending on the power of the ki that might change the distant travel. HOWEVER I honestly think(In my personal canon) that Goku will learn the better version of that skill from The Kai(s)

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I don't think that he needs a ki signature for short distances. The ki signature is used to pinpoint the location he wants to go, but for short distances, he can use his eyes to do that (as we saw against Super #17 in GT).

[mAcChaos]

I'd say he always needs a ki signature. That's how he explained it.

That is one way that Shin's teleportation technique is superior.

[DoomieDoomie911]

I'm pretty sure he always needs a ki signature for Instantaneous Movement.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

For the manga, it seems like he always needs a ki signature.
After the anime introduced the Shunkan-ido dimension though, it seems like the ki signature just acts as a point of reference to tell him when and where to exit. He could probably go a short distance, within the basic line of sight, without needing a ki to lock on to. But that's not really helpful.

[Saiyatonian]

Over long distances, he really needs time to concentrate. As long as he's close to an enemy, he'll be fine in combat.

[lash]

I don't think that he needs a ki signature for short distances. The ki signature is used to pinpoint the location he wants to go, but for short distances, he can use his eyes to do that (as we saw against Super #17 in GT).

Super 17 had ki though.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't think that he needs a ki signature for short distances. The ki signature is used to pinpoint the location he wants to go, but for short distances, he can use his eyes to do that (as we saw against Super #17 in GT).

Super 17 had ki though.

The fuck he did? I thought androids have no ki.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

The fuck he did? I thought androids have no ki.

GT has Trunks sense 17's ki, so...

Anyway, regardless of GT's plotholes, Super 17 does actually have ki. He's half Machine Mutant, which do have ki.

[TheGmGoken]

The fuck he did? I thought androids have no ki.

GT has Trunks sense 17's ki, so...

Anyway, regardless of GT's plotholes, Super 17 does actually have ki. He's half Machine Mutant, which do have ki.

That was a DBGT plot hole. In the original audio(JPN) he said "His ki feels similar to Android 18's". So that was only used for a plot device. Though where did Machine Mutan have no ki?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

That was a DBGT plot hole. In the original audio(JPN) he said "His ki feels similar to Android 18's". So that was only used for a plot device. Though where did Machine Mutan have no ki?

That's what I just said...

Even as a plot device, it's still a plothole. Regardless, 17 can be sensed in GT. Add that in with Machine Mutants having ki (where did you get me saying they don't?), as noted when the gang senses Rilld, Bebi, etc, and Hellfighter 17 being one; there is no reason for Super 17 to not have ki.

[KentalSSJ6]

For the manga, it seems like he always needs a ki signature.
After the anime introduced the Shunkan-ido dimension though, it seems like the ki signature just acts as a point of reference to tell him when and where to exit. He could probably go a short distance, within the basic line of sight, without needing a ki to lock on to. But that's not really helpful.

Didnt the second Cooler movie show us how it worked, albeit on a more detailed level? If I remember correctly it basically showed Instant Transmission as some sort of faster than light highway.

[some_weirdGuy]

I imagine it's kinda like running with your eyes closed, you'd lose your bearings if you tried going any long distance. ((potentially veering off course or going in circles or generally just winding up in entirely the wrong place... maybe he can even still run into things, who knows XD)).

Infact, running with your eyes closed may be a very astute way of putting it, as if he's moving faster than light it's reasonable to say light isn't getting to his eyes, meaning he's travelling blind, which explains why he uses ki signatures as a reference.
He puts his fingers to his forehead to help with the locating ki signatures, so actually short distance IT where he doesn't lock onto a signature(if possible) would be indistinguishable from the normal high speed movements anyway, like when he did the IT kamehameha without putting them to his forehead.