Does it bother you at times when people disregard the anime?

[TheGmGoken]

Okay I fully understand the manga is the original source and is by far the most accurate thing to use in debates. I know the anime at times can be very contradicting. By why should we just ignore everything that happens in the anime that didn't happen in the manga? I don't think everything that happens only in the anime is filler. Sometimes I think it's just extending or padding. Anyways. For example. Goku ALMOST falling into Hell. I don't mind it. Don't see what's the big deal. Gives us a nice gag and not just Goku running. But since it wasn't in the manga we have to disregard it. Another example is the wait for the Cell games. I don't see why we have to disregard most of that filler. It shows the Z fighters being more peaceful and Goku in normal clothes.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's the opposite for me, actually. You either accept the whole anime (excluding movies), or nothing from it IMO.

[TheGmGoken]

It's the opposite for me, actually. You either accept the whole anime (excluding movies), or nothing from it IMO.

Well then... . I chose to take some parts of the anime.

[Rocketman]

I don't think everything that happens only in the anime is filler. Sometimes I think it's just extending or padding.

That is literally the same thing.


As for the topic, ahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No.

[rereboy]

No, because the anime is just an adaption by other people. Therefore, it makes perfect sense to disregard all changes done by the anime.

[hunterxhunter21]

As a fan of only the manga, I disregard anything in the anime and movies. I've only seen part of the anime and a few movies. I've tried watching the anime. I've watched the season sets, the Dragon Boxes, and Kai. Both English and Japanese. Can't really get into it. I don't care to try to watch what I haven't seen. My personal cannon is manga. If others want to count filler or the movies in their cannon fine. Just don't tell me I'm wrong or less of a fan and I won't hound you for not enjoy the manga or counting filler in your cannon.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I think everything is canon from a multiverse perspective, so I personally don't disregard it. I, however, do see why people disregard it so it's not annoying to me at all.

[Hellspawn28]

I like using the anime only if it's stated by the topic creator. Other wise, we should mainly stick with the manga for debates. The fillers in the anime makes things into a total mess sometimes.

[rereboy]

I thing everything is canon from a multiverse perspective

If everything is canon, then there's no canon at all. Something can only be canon if there's something that isn't canon.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I thing everything is canon from a multiverse perspective

If everything is canon, then there's no canon at all. Something can only be canon if there's something that isn't canon.

There can exist a canon if everything is not part of the same timeline. Toriyama himself said that he views the stuff he didn't create as AU stories. If there's effort to try and place things in different timelines or universes, I would say a canon exists.

[TheGmGoken]

I don't think everything that happens only in the anime is filler. Sometimes I think it's just extending or padding.

That is literally the same thing.


As for the topic, ahahahahahahahahahahahaha. No.

Not really. Padding or extending would be an extra 2 -3 seconds or so. Such sd GHohan turning SSJ2 with the bird and stuff. I would't call filler. So it'a really not the same thing. Now Goku vs Freeza was mostly filler

[hleV]

The bird is filler.

[TheGmGoken]

The bird is filler.

Okay no. I can't really accept that. Isn't filler in DB's case used to not catch up to the manga hence why we got random cut away? I really doubt the bird was used for that reason and was there for emotion affect. The scene wasn't that much longer than the manga. Barely longer infact. I see it more or less as padding as of filler. Now Gohan going SSJ2 in the next episode was filler.

[DoomieDoomie911]

It doesn't bother me at all. The anime has a lot of inconsistencies, and in my opinion, it's better to go by the manga.

[TheGmGoken]

It doesn't bother me at all. The anime has a lot of inconsistincies, and in my opinion, it's better to go by the manga.

Damn most likely should have worded it better. I should say the anime is disregarded 100%. By all means the manga is the best option. But some thhings in the anime should't be just left out complete. Even though a lot of it is just Toei mistakes.

[Rocketman]

The bird is filler.

I thought everybody had heard.

[rereboy]

I thing everything is canon from a multiverse perspective

If everything is canon, then there's no canon at all. Something can only be canon if there's something that isn't canon.

There can exist a canon if everything is not part of the same timeline. Toriyama himself said that he views the stuff he didn't create as AU stories. If there's effort to try and place things in different timelines or universes, I would say a canon exists.

Canon is basically a way of saying "this is what is real". If everything is part of a big multiverse that has multiple timelines and universes, then everything is as real as the main universe.

A simple example: Future Trunks' timeline is as canon as the main timeline, because its, without a doubt, as real as the main timeline. Talking about canon here doesn't even make sense because there isn't anything that is not canon. So, if you assume that everything exists in other universes and timelines like Trunks' timeline, then they will as real as well.

Something non-canon means that it doesn't really exist or is real.

[Shineman]

It doesn't really bother me per-say, if one does not put into the account of putting anime within their arguments. For my perspective of the case, when a series, such as Dragon Ball has no define canon, I just used all media that fits within the timeline, unless stated otherwise; kind of like Digimon (although it's canon is completely differs than that of Dragon Ball). For example, I considered the manga, anime (meaning fillers included), few movies and GT to be part of the Official Dragon Ball Timeline/History. Noticed that I haven't mention canon, because there is no "canon". The term canon is often dispute within the Dragon Ball community and will always have disagreements from many sides, thus turning into an ugly debate because no one can't seem to agree on the definition of canon.

@rereboy

Canon is a series of events that has been considered "part of the timeline/history" by the original creator(s)/Rights Holders. It does not necessarily means "this is real"; In other words, if Bird Studios/Toei/Toriyama were to considered Battle of Gods "canon", then it wouldn't mean that "this is real" but rather, it's part of the official history of the series. If they were to say it's non-canon, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but it just rather not part of the history of the series, and rather a "alternate story" of Dragon Ball.

In the end, disregarding this and disregarding that can be a handful when it comes to Dragon Ball, because there is no defined canon. Of course, we get statements throw around here and there; whereas Toriyama stated that movies are like alternate timeline (someone correct me on this), GT is a side-story, Battle of Gods takes place before Oob and GT [Funny how they mention GT], but after Boo. Then we have guides such as Daizenshuu and GT Perfect files, then we have some secondary materials of the series here and there. Often creates a clusterfuck of such case. However, I think that people should leave canon off of the table, because it's clear as day that some has a good understanding of what's canon means because there are so many disagreements. Hell, as I'm typing this up, I probably don't think I have knowledge of what canon actually means!

[KentalSSJ6]

Depends. I dont like when people call Grand Kai non canon. I mean hes mentioned in the manga and even in the anime I believe Toriyama himself suggested putting Grand Kai in the anime.

[TheGmGoken]

Depends. I dont like when people call Grand Kai non canon. I mean hes mentioned in the manga and even in the anime I believe Toriyama himself suggested putting Grand Kai in the anime.

Kinda like how he suggested Krillin and Yajoribe has the same Voice actor. Even though one was written on paper and the other is your theory. Grand Kai and Other World tournament(Remove the hell scenes) should be okay to debate to be honest.